(NSFW) Let's Talk About...

[Mich]

MASTURBATION. Happy zero? Geeze. WACKING OFF.

Anyway. One word guys never ever want to hear: torsion.

Of course, I tried bringing this up once and all of the guys were like "what about it?" and I was, of course, just cringing at the thought. My guys were shriveling up at the mere thought.

[Petra456]

My boobs float like crazy, and are very noticeable even under my swim suit.

I'm use my right hand for everything, my left hand is basically useless : (

Will is right handed, but uses his left hand for his happy fun time. He said it is because when he was first started masturbating, he broke his right arm and just learned to do it lefty.

[neo-dragon]

If ever I come running to the boards, squealing about having a real live boyfriend of my own, don't congratulate me. Remind me that I want to test out a squeeze or five to see what their pain threshold is. Thanks.

Have I mentioned that you're weird?

But I sort of like that about you

[Jayelle]

THREE pages? Geez, pweb. Apparently we were just itching to talk about s-e-x.

[Eaquae Legit]

And yet half the posts are about relative boyancy.

[Wil]

He said it is because when he was first started masturbating, he broke his right arm and just learned to do it lefty.

He broke his arm learning to masturbate?! Doing it wrong, bro.

[Petra456]

He said it is because when he was first started masturbating, he broke his right arm and just learned to do it lefty.

He broke his arm learning to masturbate?! Doing it wrong, bro.

Maybe he just gets REALLY into it...

Nah, I think he said he fell on it or was pushed. THEN started, silly!

[buckshot]

I'm only here for the boob talk! My wife's do float , boobs are so great!

[Luet]

Oh, buckshot, you are a riot.

I do like my own boobs. I often find myself sitting with my hand down the front of my shirt, wedged between my boobs. It's a handy and comfortable hand rest! And warm, when my hands are always cold in the winter. My husband always looks at me funny when he comes in and finds me sitting that way.

[thoughtreader]

I have been happy to find that monogamy + long term relationship + trust = Really Freaking Hot Stuff.

I have to agree with this. I had ok sex the first time but with someone who looking back was a really bad idea. and after that i had ok sex. But sex with my husband has been freaking awesome from the first time and just keeps getting better I really like knowing that he is going to be the only person i have sex.

Me to Husband (who is busy playing Call of Duty): Honey, does your penis float?

Him: WHAT? *accidentally throws a grenade*

Me: Does your penis float? In water?

Him: *sputters* I don't know. What are you reading?

Chris' respons to me asking the same question was very similar to this. As far as boobs go even my itty bitty titty comity breast float.

[thoughtreader]

double post...

So I went to NY in the 12th of last month for a 2 week trip... that ended up being extended 2 times and i was gone for just short of 4 weeks. In short no sex for a LONG time. Normally I would have taken care of the issue all by my self... but staying at my moms made this not practical.
By the time i got home i was past the point of horny and very happy to be home. when I saw Chris in the airport i actually left my bags and ran and jumped on him... all I needed was some movie magic slow motion and music and it would have been perfect. I just missed seeing him so much. and being able to do the fun physical things with him was just some amazing icing on the cake

[Gravity Defier]

I do like my own boobs. I often find myself sitting with my hand down the front of my shirt, wedged between my boobs. It's a handy and comfortable hand rest! And warm, when my hands are always cold in the winter. My husband always looks at me funny when he comes in and finds me sitting that way.

How funny, Nomi. At home, I'll find myself with my hand down my shirt, randomly cupping my right boob. It's nothing sexual, just comfortable.

As for my boob size, I used to be happy with them. At one point, they were my favorite body part. They weren't too big, weren't too little. I thought they were nicely shaped, hung pretty well, and better proportioned to my body as a whole. And then I lost weight and lost a cup size in the process. I don't hate them now and perhaps if I started at this size (as in, this was the biggest I ever got), I might be happier with them but it's a mild to strong disappointment, depending on day and mood.

[Eaquae Legit]

Boobs are really comfy, I have to admit. Perfect handrests.

In other news, I got kissed by a pair of rather drunk friends-who-are-girls the other night. I was just sitting there, pregnant and sober, and then BAM! Lips! It was just a quick peck, but it left me rather startled. Pretty funny in retrospect. Apparently I was the one left un-kissed, and they felt the need to collect the whole set, as it were.

[Young Val]

I do like my own boobs. I often find myself sitting with my hand down the front of my shirt, wedged between my boobs. It's a handy and comfortable hand rest! And warm, when my hands are always cold in the winter. My husband always looks at me funny when he comes in and finds me sitting that way.

How funny, Nomi. At home, I'll find myself with my hand down my shirt, randomly cupping my right boob. It's nothing sexual, just comfortable.

As for my boob size, I used to be happy with them. At one point, they were my favorite body part. They weren't too big, weren't too little. I thought they were nicely shaped, hung pretty well, and better proportioned to my body as a whole. And then I lost weight and lost a cup size in the process. I don't hate them now and perhaps if I started at this size (as in, this was the biggest I ever got), I might be happier with them but it's a mild to strong disappointment, depending on day and mood.

In college I had a terrible absent-minded habit of sticking pens in my cleavage for storage between note-taking. This habit most likely cropped up because I put on the freshman 15 and finally, finally got some boobs after being more or less flat-chested for my entire adolescence. (Side-note, I keep warning David that if I continue to lose weight the boobs will eventually go away, as I don't come by them honestly. This saddens him). I used to get a lot of stares in class and not be able to figure out why until it dawned on me that my rack is perhaps not the most acceptable pencil case.

[Platypi007]

Thought I'd chime in on the male side of things in this thread (not that there can ever be too much talk of boobs).

I have no idea if my penis floats, I have never actually thought about that the few times I've skinny dipped.

I am a righty but I use my left hand for masturbating. In fact, I'm pretty sure I'd feel about as useless doing it with my right hand as I feel trying to write with my left. The biggest reason, though, is that I have been using internet porn since I was a wee lad of 13 (at which time it took an hour to download one breast) and my right hand uses the mouse. :D

Although, I'm not sure what I was using the mouse for in the beginning since I was using DOS and a telnet program to access the internet and I'm pretty sure whatever I was viewing the images in wasn't GUI/mouse driven, and I was definitely masturbating well before that so I'm not sure why I used my left hand, but I have used the left as long as I can remember. I guess my internet porn theory is a load of crap and I'm just strange.

[neo-dragon]

By the way, with regards to the floating body parts, don't forget that the salinity of the water is a factor. Mine floated in the ocean. I haven't tested it in fresh water.

[Platypi007]

Ooh, that is right! I've never gone nude in the ocean.

[VelvetElvis]

My breasts float in both.

[Platypi007]

My breasts float in both.

This post lives up to your avatar. :)

[neo-dragon]

I'm so glad that we have a thread where it's appropriate to post this: Superhero Sex Moves

[VelvetElvis]

Oh gosh. When I get home from work, I am SO looking that up.

[Eaquae Legit]

Colour me shocked. Sexist Women Like Pick-Up Artists

The study underlines yet again the connection between seduction tactics that seek to minimize or circumvent a woman's autonomy, and out-and-out rape. It also reveals a scary possibility: that the women most likely to be receptive to such tactics are also those who, if they are raped, are most likely to blame themselves. This is a reminder that young women and men both need to be taught to value all people equally — and that sexist attitudes aren't automatically harmless just because a woman holds them.

[Dr. Mobius]

They really need to clarify sexism towards women and sexism towards men. When someone says a woman is sexist I tend to assume it's directed at men, not herself.

I also disagree fundamentally with why they were asking several of the questions on that sexism quiz thingie. The world doesn't revolve around sexism and there are other more acceptable reasons someone might do something that on the surface appears to be sexist.

[Eaquae Legit]

They really need to clarify sexism towards women and sexism towards men. When someone says a woman is sexist I tend to assume it's directed at men, not herself.

That part could have been better stated, it's true.

I also disagree fundamentally with why they were asking several of the questions on that sexism quiz thingie. The world doesn't revolve around sexism and there are other more acceptable reasons someone might do something that on the surface appears to be sexist.

Care to elaborate? I'm not saying you're wrong, I found several of the questions problematic as stated, but I'm curious.

Looking through the FAQs, it does appear that the ASI has at least some peer-reviewed support, and they acknowledge that the individual questions can seem quite innocent: In almost any sexism scale, there will be specific items that do not seem sexist. When all 22 items of the Ambivalent Sexism Inventory are taken together, however, the resulting scores are statistically related to other measures of sexism and gender inequality. For example, cross-cultural research has found that national averages on the Ambivalent Sexism Inventory are related to indices of gender inequality, such as having fewer women in positions of political power.

[Dr. Mobius]

Women should be cherished and protected by men.

I know the right answer for them is strongly disagree since the assumption is that the reason for doing so is because the man thinks thinks women are inherently weaker/delicate and need protection. But the way I look at it, men and women both should cherish and protect the other people in their lives, not just their romantic SO's, but their relatives and friends as well. And not just the "a woman needs a strong man" physical protection bullshit the question is aiming for, but a more general sense of protection from any type of attack. Not because they're inferior and need your protection, but because it's simply the right thing to do.


Feminists are not seeking for women to have more power than men.

This question needs a some/most modifier. As stated there is no right answer. Most feminists seek equality for men and woman, however if you spend any length of time at all among feminists (or really any special interest group), you'll find that there's some radical feminists that don't understand the concept of equality any better than those they're fighting against and want to tip the scale in the opposite direction, either to impose a compensated artificial "equality" that's doomed to backfire, or in some cases they simply (and maliciously) want to give the opposition a taste of their own medicine.


Women exaggerate problems they have at work.

Meh, I think this could be chalked up to a different way of perceiving the world. They probably complain more than men, which might seem to be exaggeration to the man. And something that would be a BIG PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED!1!!eleven! to her might be a mild annoyance I'd just ignore or avoid.

... And belatedly I realize that since this is a sexism survey, the "problems at work" she's supposedly exaggerating are probably things I couldn't relate to anyway so how the hell could I know whether she's exaggerating or not? Though the perception thing still applies since it's entirely possible someone (a guy of course) said something completely harmless and she took it the wrong way. And I suppose that scenario could itself be considered a form a sexism, meh.


Men should be willing to sacrifice their own well being in order to provide financially for the women in their lives.

See my first example, it's the exact same thing. Sacrifice and compromise should be a two-way street, not the implied either/or.


If you're curious, the first time I took the survey I got 2.09 on both sections, then I retook it and got 1.45 hostile and 1.55 benevolent.

[Eaquae Legit]

*nods* The cherishing and providing ones were two that I had problems with as well, for pretty much the same reason. I don't care enough right now to go look it up, but I wonder if any of the related studies they cite address that issue.

My "benevolent" score was 2.15, which probably reflects my ambivalence about the questions.

[starlooker]

Women should be cherished and protected by men.

I ended up slightly agreeing with that one. Just because I do think the instinct to protect, if it's not tainted by jealousy or overzealousness, is one of the most positive aspects of manhood, really. I don't think women necessarily NEED protecting; I'd probably be more comfortable if the question were framed that men should cherish and protect the women in their lives. But maybe that's just semantics. Anyhow, too much of anything is problematic, and I think men who are sexist or emotionally abusive or controlling or whatever can sure rationalize by thinking their actions are motivated by "cherishing" and "protecting." However, in a man with a generally healthy attitude towards women, I think it can be a positive thing. (See: Husband who wants to make sure his wife doesn't fall down the stairs while she's pregnant, so he goes and buys her new pool shoes. Which I found incredibly cute and sweet, if a bit silly. "Protectiveness" covers a wide range of actions.)

And I think spouses/partners/etc. should cherish one another. Heck, it's even in some wedding vows.

I got a .45 on the hostile sexism and I forget what on the benevolent. It was lower than average, but a good bit higher than the hostile sexism score. *shrug*

I'd be interested to know how the test was created/validated. Someday I may look into it for the fun of it. I kind of miss academia.

[Caspian]

See, Mobius and EL, I read "Women should be cherished and protected by men" as a completely different statement than "People should cherish and protect each other". "Women should be cherished and protected by men" is explicitly a question about women and men, not a question about cherishing and protecting.

Likewise, I think I'd give a slightly different answer to "Men should cherish and protect women" than I would to "Women should be cherished and protected by men".

[starlooker]

Likewise, I think I'd give a slightly different answer to "Men should cherish and protect women" than I would to "Women should be cherished and protected by men".

This.

When I was first reading through the survey, though, it didn't quite hit me that way.

[Eaquae Legit]

It IS a subtle thing, Paul, I don't disagree. It just made it difficult for me to sort out my exact stance on the matter and answer effectively. Maybe I'll have to go look up the development/use of the inventory now, since I'm all interested!

EDIT: BAD EL, BAD. BACK TO YOUR THESIS!

[Dr. Mobius]

Maybe the should be more direct and ask the underlying question instead of merely implying it. If the question were stated as "Women are inherently inferior to men and therefore need to be cherished and protected." I'd have far less issues with it.

[starlooker]

That might be where the "ambivalent" part comes in. Because I'm pretty sure that no one taking the survey would agree with that statement, even if they had that underlying attitude.

[neo-dragon]

So in the case of a disaster is the "save the women and children first" philosophy no longer acceptable?

[Dr. Mobius]

We'll find out this week when Irene destroys New York.

[starlooker]

So in the case of a disaster is the "save the women and children first" philosophy no longer acceptable?

*shrugs*

I think "save the children first" is definitely an acceptable philosophy.

Really, I'd say that the right thing to do is to save the most vulnerable people first -- the people less likely to be able to save themselves or to survive the disaster without aid. So, you know, a man in a wheelchair who needs to get out of a burning building when the elevators are not usable should be put ahead of a woman who has no mobility issues.