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I just noticed that many funny (freaky, nerdy or otherwise boring) vids i would like to post here (and don't do so out of fear to spam
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So... are you guys in facebook? did someone create a pweb page in there?
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And I thought I was special! : PI'm on FB. I'd friend any pwebber who can find me and sends me a request.
I find this kinda funny cause you have your GPS coordinates as your location. So I really can find your exact geographic location!my own approximate geographic location.
First thing isn't intended for the people who know how to set up their privacy settings. It's a crack at Facebook's privacy settings being opt-out instead of opt-in. The average person still thinks that Facebook is looking out for them, which is untrue, and Germany is suing Facebook over this. Besides, you don't really want more spam mail, do you?First: Checked my email address on that website and it only gave my first name and my location (Las Vegas, NV, US). With the proper privacy settings, you're pretty well hidden on social networks. I chalk this one up to user ignorance.
Second: Ohhh man, you have my IP address. I'm soooooo scared. You'll be able to find out the block of addresses my ISP has registered under their own name, and maybe my own approximate geographic location.
Yes, you can DDOS me. I've had it done, because I hung out in the wrong places many years ago. I've also done it, because years ago I spent time learning about those things. But, you know what? The majority of people don't have to worry about it at all. It is akin to someone spraying your front door with a fire hose, so no body and no thing can get in or out the door. It is merely an inconvenience, not an inherent security issue. Eventually they'll get bored and go away. Plus, for the more technologically inclined of us, it is a trivial matter of getting a new IP address from the ISP as most everyone at home has a dynamic IP anyway.
The real issue is home user ignorance. They don't keep up with security patches (active security) and they don't maintain some form of passive security. They don't realize that their are privacy settings on social networks that can keep them hidden. They use the same crappy password on social websites, forums, and instant messengers as they use on Amazon, Paypal, and Google. They have security questions set up that can be answered by accessing information on social networks that they haven't properly set up the privacy settings for. An IP address is a direct link to a computer, yes, but it is entirely useless if you aren't stupid with your spread of information on the internet.
No need to spread paranoia with your script kiddie ways of finding out trivially easy information to find on people.
Back to the thread topic: Yes, I have Facebook. But I'm extremely selective of who I friend because of the information I put there. I have two people I know from pweb friended on Facebook.
Google is pretty good at filtering out spam mail for me.First thing isn't intended for the people who know how to set up their privacy settings. It's a crack at Facebook's privacy settings being opt-out instead of opt-in. The average person still thinks that Facebook is looking out for them, which is untrue, and Germany is suing Facebook over this. Besides, you don't really want more spam mail, do you?
I'm not too concerned with people having my email address.One more thing, Facebook has had private email addresses leak before. What makes you think it won't happen again?
Yep. But, I'm not one of those people that are super worried about people having my name, knowing I'm a guy, knowing what I look like, or where I went to school. Some people are. These are the people that are paranoid or have legitimate reasons for wanting privacy, and they are probably already aware of how insecure facebook is.On Facebook, your name, profile picture, gender, and networks are public, so if I find someone's Facebook, I immediately have a few more details on someone. People who are naive enough to put what Facebook "recommends" leave a lot more details out there, and that can lead to more details being found out, eventually leading to what someone thought was a secret being known by someone else. So I have your name, and I have your city, and now I find a phone book, and now I've found you.
It isn't quite that easy. Assuming it isn't just one or two computers doing the, as said above, distributing denial of service, then blocking and filtering ICMP packets is entirely useless. Why do you think large websites actually falter under DDoS attacks from time to time? The filtering software and hardware becomes so bogged down by the literally hundreds of thousands of requests that they can't process anything else.You took the second thing out of context. The DDoS attack thing means - get a firewall and a router to block ICMP packets. The internet is becoming a utility, a necessity in life, so blocking DDoS attacks becomes more important. But an IP address gives a geographic location, I know you're near there. Won't give an address, but who cares about that? I explicitly said approximate location, why would I care if it wasn't hitting the intended target? What if I wanted collateral damage? So I said use a proxy server to screw up the results.
The 1% that are stubborn enough to be randomly DDoSing some random home user will likely find that the home user will call their ISP, since they have no idea why they can't get online, and after some finagling and standard "restart" nonsense, the ISP will force an IP change for that router to their network and no more DDoS attack.So someone wants to DDoS someone, will they stop? Well, probably 99% of people will, but that remaining 1% of people are just that darn stubborn that they won't stop.
Not only did it give nothing useful (it managed to ID a flikr account that I'd forgotten I even had and a google profile. for one of the three e-mail addresses of mine that I tried) but it even gave the completely wrong location for the IP.
Every address I try just says "no user info found" for the first one. The one address I tried for the IP finder it gave a totally wrong location. (shrug)Not only did it give nothing useful (it managed to ID a flikr account that I'd forgotten I even had and a google profile. for one of the three e-mail addresses of mine that I tried) but it even gave the completely wrong location for the IP.
They weren't naive enough to give them to you, they were trusting.-shakes head- I tell you how to find the sender of an email from an IP address, and then you guys use it to try and find your own IP address from email headers... Or at least, that's what I can assume due to the crazy results. Based on that assumption, the effect would be that you're finding the initial sender of an email, and reporting it as your own IP address. However, I've tested two IP addresses given from email headers, and my own IP address, and two were in the same city as where the actual address was. And I knew their addresses because they were naive enough to give them to me. That's cause for concern.
Because I knew their exact geographic locations due to their naivete, I could check how far the IP lookup was from their actual house. The results are alarming. My IP lookup was 2.3 km away from my actual house and was in the same city. Peterlover14's IP lookup was 4.4 km from her actual house and was in the same city. Graff^'s IP lookup was 24.7 km from his actual house, very close in a rural area. All of these used no proxy server and used their actual IP address. So based on the data I have, IP addresses are reliable enough to find someone.
Since you're trying to use it to see your location from your IP address, I bet you'll get closer results if you use this. And don't change whatever is in the box either, as it should detect your public IP.
If your email address is private, it won't detect it. It means you know what you're doing online. Plain and simple. Yet I'm getting flak for telling the masses how to do it and advocating privacy. It's freedom of information, freedom of speech.
I lold at this pointAlso, what is your point here? That you plan to stalk all of us?-shakes head- I tell you how to find the sender of an email from an IP address, and then you guys use it to try and find your own IP address from email headers... Or at least, that's what I can assume due to the crazy results. Based on that assumption, the effect would be that you're finding the initial sender of an email, and reporting it as your own IP address. However, I've tested two IP addresses given from email headers, and my own IP address, and two were in the same city as where the actual address was. And I knew their addresses because they were naive enough to give them to me. That's cause for concern.
Because I knew their exact geographic locations due to their naivete, I could check how far the IP lookup was from their actual house. The results are alarming. My IP lookup was 2.3 km away from my actual house and was in the same city. Peterlover14's IP lookup was 4.4 km from her actual house and was in the same city. Graff^'s IP lookup was 24.7 km from his actual house, very close in a rural area. All of these used no proxy server and used their actual IP address. So based on the data I have, IP addresses are reliable enough to find someone.
Since you're trying to use it to see your location from your IP address, I bet you'll get closer results if you use this. And don't change whatever is in the box either, as it should detect your public IP.
If your email address is private, it won't detect it. It means you know what you're doing online. Plain and simple. Yet I'm getting flak for telling the masses how to do it and advocating privacy. It's freedom of information, freedom of speech.
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