Dreams, visions, etc.

[AnthonyByakko]

Driving through an unfamiliar street, in the dead of night, I notice something in the sky ahead of me. It's puzzling; I know it's past midnight, but there before me is the sun. It's burning bright, but darkness is still all around. I get out of the vehicle; I don't seem to have a choice. I'm drawn to stare. Others are as well, coming out of their homes to gaze upwards. But it doesn't stop there - the planets begin to come into view, aligning towards the midnight sun, crowning her in a circle; their shadows playing tricks with what light I can see. Their monstrous forms imposing, space begins to bend around them; the sun burns ever hotter, flares reaching out and scorching the sky around it before the whole ball erupts, setting the planets encircled around it in flame. As the planets burn around the sun, I stumble backwards, back into the car and racing away, trying to get home to be with family before what seems to be the inevitable end of this world. I think, just hold off a few minutes, God; brighter and brighter the flaming cosmic disturbance glows; oh s***, I forgot - HELL!. But before the planet can be doomed to destruction, I wake up.

So. What does it all mean? Lemme tell you, it was far too vivid for my tastes, at least with that particular subject matter.

[jotabe]

It means: smoking weed is bad

Seriously now: dreams don't mean anything. They are just constructs of your mind, your creativity, and the best way you can use them is capture some ideas to write stories, draw comics of film movies.

Edit: comments regarding to the physics of your dream: to see a bright sun in the middle of darkness, you would need the atmosphere to have been stripped off the Earth. If not all, a good chunk of it. The kind of circumstances you describe could only be caused by a terrible gravitatory disturbance... that can't happen. Even if the sun had massive enough to implode into black hole, we wouldn't feel a single change, gravitatorily speaking, as long as we were outside the event horizon. When our Sun becomes a red giant, the only gravitatory effect we will feel is a slight decrease in the attraction, and an increase in the friction of our orbit.
Also, gravity acts very slowly, and the changes that happen in your dream hardly can proceed in a few hours. A few years maybe... if you find a way to introduce such powerful gravitatory disturbance.

[AnthonyByakko]

Specifically, jota, it was the influence of sleeping medication I think. Trying to sleep during the day (for night shift job) wreaks havoc on my brain and so I usually use sleep aids. They almost always cause crazy dreams like this one.

BUT, this isn't the first "apocalyptic" dream that I've had, even this month. I frequently dream of themes like war or crime or the end of the world, and it disturbs me. Some people think dreams have meaning, and this makes me wonder if it has any validity, and if so, why mine are so intense and revelatory.

[jotabe]

Well, maybe you should ask your doctor if this is a normal side effect. I guess it all depends on how much angst they cause. I guess that i would be enjoying the sights, had i such dreams lol.

For physical comments, if you wish to use it for some kind of sci-fi creation, see the edits in my previous post.

[AnthonyByakko]

I have a book I keep with me at work called "10,000 Dreams Interpreted" and it gives a lot of good information on the nature of dreams, the mytho-historical background, and so on. It's arranged so that you look up something you have seen in a dream, and it gives possible meaning (if meaning exists for dreams.)

“If the sun appears weird… there will be stormy and dangerous times, but these will eventually pass.”

“…a weird and uncanny moon denotes unpropitious lovemaking, domestic infelicities, and disappointing enterprises of a business character.”

- 10,000 Dreams Interpreted, G.H. Miller

As to the physical aspects, that seems like a correct description of the situation. However, aren't there other ways in which the sun would appear in a dark sky? If the sun weren't nearly as bright as it currently is, wouldn't our sky appear dark even if the sun were out? I'm not sure about it, luminosity and whatnot isn't my speciality. The planets seemed to align all around the sun; could their gravitation influence cause it? I mean, without getting into some Star Trek style stuff (even though the sky did appear to 'warp' around the phenomema in a weird, dark purple-ish nebula looking thing.)

[hive_king]

I had a dream the other night that there was a bear. And it was trying to eat me. It failed.

[AnthonyByakko]

I can distinctly remember 3 dreams in which bears tried to eat me. Uncanny.

Edit: "A bear is significant of overwhelming competition in pursuits of every kind." - 10,000 Dreams Interpreted

[hive_king]

It was a black bear. Does that mean my dreams are racist?

[jotabe]

H_k, it's a pity it wasn't a penguin instead. It would have taught you French.


I can't think of any other circumstance... maybe in world nuclear aftermath, the dust cloud around the planet could cause that, but the Sun would be seen not nearly as bright, almost a faintly bright disc.
Maybe, with all those planets so close, the tidal forces would be huge, so maybe in that moment Earth's atmosphere was very thin in the place you were. This could help with that "warp" visual effect: an undefinite, but very thin atmosphere, potentially changing its shape very quickly, would act as a distorting lens.
It's all i can think of.

[Sparrowhawk]

It was a black bear. Does that mean my dreams are racist?

no, it just meant the bear wanted your wallet so it could buy some crack.

[AnthonyByakko]

Man, all of those outcomes are pretty depressing...

Although, seeing the sun set every planet in the solar system on fire as it burned during the night was pretty depressing in the first place. I think I'm hanging around the "religion" forum too much, it's giving me Revelations.

[hive_king]

*rimshot*

[Sparrowhawk]

at first I thought you said rimjob; then I realized Limegiver didn't come to this board anymore.

[eriador]

I had a dream the other night that there was a bear. And it was trying to eat me. It failed.

I had a dream years ago about a polar bear trying to eat me. It was snowing so all that I could see was its eyes and nose, until it bit my hand.

[hive_king]

Mine was trying to get at me through a door, but i shut the door on its face. How it got on the second story of an apartment building, I don't know.

[Jebus]

at first I thought you said rimjob; then I realized Limegiver didn't come to this board anymore.

It's good to have you back, Otaku.

[Satya]

I wonder... Did you really believe that I was Otaku, Jeebs? I recall at that time I was playing the role of Sparrow and AB to great effect. I never did figure out if I had really pulled it off or not.

On another note, looking back at those days was like stepping back into a time machine. I'm not the same person I was (or was pretending to be) anymore, but damn...

[Jebus]

I think for a short time I believed the Sparrowhawk username was being used by Otaku returned, but I don't think it was too long before I discovered it was you (most likely by you or HA telling me). But I'm not sure if I was being serious in that post, or if I was speaking to your reimagining of Otaku, it having been three years ago and all.

[Satya]

Good times. I never did have the killer instinct to play both roles for long. Soon enough though we'll fire up the ol' fun machine and give it another go. See what we can come up with, this time with no facade. Gird your loins.

[Crazy Tom: C Toon]

eh. Have any of you dreamt your own death? I have, twice now in the past couple months. In the first, im driving with some friends, a tornado hits from nowhere, and the car is picked up, slammed down, then slowly folded over me. I remember honestly thinking I was dead because of how real it was. In the second, I'm watching a little kids play, I walk away, then I'm in this room, and a little kid, playfully, slashes me with a knife. I get mad, try to take it from him, and he just keeps cutting me up till I'm bleeding my life out on the floor. I'm not on any medication or doing any drugs, but I seem to be getting lots of vivid dreams of my death. comments?

[jotabe]

Try not to wake up during or right after the dream, you won't remember a thing
God, am i a poet or what!

But, onto the meaning of the dream, it means you should stop being conservative and start supporting Hillary Clinton instead.
True story.

Edit: ok, ill give an appropriate answer there is nothing to be worried about because of weird and vivid dreams. Nothing at all. Being vivid or not just depends on which sleep stage you are IIRC. And remembering depends on how close to waking up they take you.

[CezeN]

It's weird, I don't dream(or remember them, since I remember hearing that we dream every night, but just can't remember).

The last time I dreamt was before going back to school, either after Thanksgiving or the beginning.

However, I wish I could dream. Even a nightmare would suffice.
It just makes me seem like I'm missing out on something that everyone does.

Not to mention, I might just start back up my research and attempted practice of controlling my mind, when I'm dreaming, if I got some indication that I'd be dreaming a significant amount of the time.

[Crazy Tom: C Toon]

It really is a lot of fun if you can control your mind while you dream. It's like living in the matrix: do whatever the heck you want simply by controlling your mind to let you.

[Jeesh_girl15]

CezeN, have you read the short story "The Threshold"? I haven't read all of it, just a passage in a practice ACT, but here's a quote that reminded me of you just now.

The woman never dreams and this makes her intensely miserable. She thinks that by not dreaming, she is unaware of things about herself that dreams would surely give her. She doesn't have the door of dreams that opens every night to question certainties of the day. She stays at the threshold, and the door is always closed, refusing her entrance. I tell her that in itself is a dream, a nightmare: to be in front of a door which will not open no matter how much we push at the latch or pound the knocker. But in truth, the door to that nightmare doesn't have a latch or a knocker; it is total surface, brown, high and smooth as a wall. Our blows strike a body without an echo.

[Satya]

Find a book on lucid dreaming. Helped me.

I practice all the time and have good success in recalling/becoming aware in dreams.

[CezeN]

CezeN, have you read the short story "The Threshold"? I haven't read all of it, just a passage in a practice ACT, but here's a quote that reminded me of you just now.

The woman never dreams and this makes her intensely miserable. She thinks that by not dreaming, she is unaware of things about herself that dreams would surely give her. She doesn't have the door of dreams that opens every night to question certainties of the day. She stays at the threshold, and the door is always closed, refusing her entrance. I tell her that in itself is a dream, a nightmare: to be in front of a door which will not open no matter how much we push at the latch or pound the knocker. But in truth, the door to that nightmare doesn't have a latch or a knocker; it is total surface, brown, high and smooth as a wall. Our blows strike a body without an echo.

Well, except for the "intensly miserable" part, that sounds about right.

And Satya, I just don't see hte point of it. I mean, when I researched, it was about realizing you're dreaming while in the dream.
If I don't even get to the "threshhold", is there any point?

[Crazy Tom: C Toon]

Ok, if there are any shrinks or anything; anybody that studies dreams, please help. I just dreampt, for like the third time in a couple months, my death. I have not had any previous dreams about death, and I have not changed my diet. I am also not on any drugs or medication. Any explination?

[jotabe]

No explanation. Dreams mean nothing. If you dream once about something that upsets you, and you are unlucky enough to remember it, and it starts worrying you to the point you have it in the back of your mind, your chances to make it recurrent increase, of course.

But really, dreams mean nothing. Noone communicates with us through them, not even our subconscious, if such thing existed.

[Satya]

cool story bro

[jotabe]

pot, kettle... you know how it goes

Feeling in a trolly mood lately, Satya?

[Syphon the Sun]

Ok, if there are any shrinks or anything; anybody that studies dreams, please help. I just dreampt, for like the third time in a couple months, my death. I have not had any previous dreams about death, and I have not changed my diet. I am also not on any drugs or medication. Any explination?

Deep down, you want to sleep with your mother.

[Satya]

pot, kettle... you know how it goes

Feeling in a trolly mood lately, Satya?

I heard you like mudkips

[Crazy Tom: C Toon]

I don't actually fear death, and I discovered this when I actually thought I had died. (I suspected so before, but I had no way to prove it until I died in my dream.)

Death doesn't worry me, and I don't really think about it except when I recall these dreams.

[Graff^]

Is it bad that you dreamed that you bled in a field covered in white roses turning red?

[Jayelle]

Yes, it's bad. Terrible. You're probably going to kill everyone you care about.