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Postby Caspian » Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:04 pm

Ego scio Eaquae Legit fatur Latinus, et ego puto Rei quoque. Disco volo. Spero capiam a ordo ut ego adepto Memorial University, at primo volo exerceo.

Quisquam volo exerceo cum me?
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Postby Rei » Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:19 pm

Eaquae Legit egoque discipuli linguae latinae sumus, et tecum exercere utrique volumus. Puto item wizzard scit linguam latinam, sed diu non est hic.

Puto librum Wheelock habes et optimum librum est.
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Postby neo-dragon » Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:26 pm

You guys are talking about me, aren't you?

Cut it out! :x
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Postby Rei » Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:42 pm

Vis, nove-draco ;)

Primum, tolle et lege (ut Sanctus Augustinus factus est) capitulum primum et capitulum secundum Wheelock. Quoque, dictionarium latinae habes? Si non habes, New College bonum est.
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Postby Petrie » Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:38 pm

Puto

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Such harsh language. That would get you your ass kicked around these parts if you said that to anyone.

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Postby locke » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:13 pm

caspian called rei a puto first.
So, Lone Star, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb.

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Postby Petrie » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:18 pm

So he did, so he did.

You think you know people and then they go calling each other names and talking smack about Jason.

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Postby Caspian » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:06 pm

Rei, ego habeo antiquae Wheelock, sed non dictionarium.

Obiter, placeo si libet mone me si erro, qui sciant.

Quoque, nunquam ego auditus "puto" ut insultare per antea.
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Postby Petrie » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:35 pm

Quoque, nunquam ego auditus "puto" ut insultare per antea.

Uh..."[something], never have I heard "puto" (used?) as an insult for (before?)."

Roughly, over-literally translated but close?


If so, it's Spanish slang and not very nice, so I'm not surprised.

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Postby Rei » Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:49 am

Caspian, quis editionem Wheelock habes? Editionem sex habemus.

Alea, correcta es.
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Postby locke » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:08 am

So, Lone Star, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb.

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Postby Eaquae Legit » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:40 am

This is probably going to take me a bunch of posts.

1. I'd love to help. I love Latin so much, and I could use the practice too.

2. You've got some odd uses of ut there - could you explain them to me? They could be right but my brain's not processing them.
Ego scio Eaquae Legit fatur Latinus, et ego puto Rei quoque. Disco volo. Spero capiam a ordo ut ego adepto Memorial University, at primo volo exerceo.

Quisquam volo exerceo cum me?
Scio EL(acc.) fari Latina, et puto Rei quoque. Discere me volo. Spero posse capere ab ordo ut, cum advenio Memorial University, ...

Actually, I'm not sure what that last sentence is supposed to be. English?

Latin is feminine when referring to the language, since "lingua" is feminine. You don't need to write most pronouns, unless you want to be especially clear or emphatic, so I removed your "ego"s. "Scio EL fari" and "discere me volo" are indirect statements, so they require and accusative+infinitive construction (chapter 25 or so in Wheelock). I can't comment on the rest until I'm sure what your intent was.
Rei, ego habeo antiquae Wheelock, sed non dictionarium.

Obiter, placeo si libet mone me si erro, qui sciant.

Quoque, nunquam ego auditus "puto" ut insultare per antea.
Rei, habeo antiquam Wheelock, sed non dictionarium.

Obiter, sodes emendate me si erro, quoniam scio me facturus esse.

Item, numquam audivi "puto" ut prius insultationem.

Again, you don't need the "ego". "Antiquam" is the object of "habeo", so it needs to be accusative. I took "placeo si libet" to mean "please", which is "sodes" or "si audes", and "qui sciant" to mean "which I know I will [do]", and since I am having trouble finding the proper use of "which", I changed it to "quoniam" (since, because), and then we go back to more indirect speech, in this case with a future infinitive. "Quoque" is usually used in lists, whereas "item" more commonly begins a sentence. You'll grow to hate that word, and then learn to ignore it. Dang item. "I have heard", in the perfect tense, is "audivi", and "per antea" is overcomplicated - "prius" is a better adverb.

Okay, so that was a huge load of info. I'm sort of taking for granted that you know most of these grammatical terms - stop me if you don't, because you'll need them! I am totally dead serious when I say that the most important thing you can do to prepare yourself for Latin is to learn your noun functions. Chapter 2 of Wheelock, around page 10 or so, has a list of noun cases and how they work - MEMORISE THEM.

I am so serious about that. If you can't figure out the nouns, you're sunk. Recite them when you are driving. Sing them as a song to Ginny. Learn them inside out and backwards.

Coming only slightly behind that is my emphasis on memorising the paradigms. "O-S-T-MUS-TIS-NT" fits the tune of the Mickey Mouse club theme song perfectly if you say all the letters.

Now then. Composing Latin is pretty tough - you did decent for what I understand your knowledge to be! I am more than happy to try to go over any concept or passage you might want help with. I get rather dry? clinical? harsh-sounding? when I'm correcting Latin, but it's nothing personal.

Bonam fortunam!
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Postby Eaquae Legit » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:44 am

Also, I'd recommend the New College Latin-English Dictionary as a top-notch starter dictionary. It's my favourite among the ones that I've seen, widely available, and cheap.

For now, since you're moving, I highly, highly recommend downloading WORDS. It's a dictionary which also gives you the grammatical information for any given word (tense, voice, person, etc.).

Get a New College in Newfoundland.

I've also got tons of resources for online, if you need them. Lots of stuff to translate, stuff in translation, all sorts of stuff.
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Postby Caspian » Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:26 am

My original post was meant to be:

I know EL speaks Latin, and I'm guessing Rei does too. I want to learn. I expect I will take a course when I get to Memorial University, but first I'd like to practice.

Anyone want to practice with me?

Thanks for the tips EL, I'll look over it all when Ginny isn't tearing the living room apart.

And now, Latina resumo.
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Postby Caspian » Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:33 am

Caspian, quis editionem Wheelock habes?
Editionem tri habemus.
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Postby jotabe » Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:43 am

Meh, longissimo tempo ut finali vici linguam latinam studiebam.
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Postby Rei » Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:04 am

Consentio cum EL de declinationibus nominum (in capitulo secundo Wheelock). Illa sonticissima discere sunt, exempli gratia, "resumo latina" debet esse "resumo latinam" quoniam "resumo" requirit accusativum objectum, "latinam".


Secundi exempli gratia, tota illarum sententiarum similem sensum (Anglice: The poet gives a rose to the girl):
Poeta rosam puellae dat.
Poeta puellae rosam dat.
Rosam puellae poeta dat.
Rosam poeta puellae dat.
Puellae poeta rosam dat.
Puellae rosam poeta dat.
Etc.

Scimus sensum quoniam "poeta" (nom.), "rosam" (acc.), et "puellae" (dat.) in tota sententiarum.
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Postby jotabe » Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:13 am

Corrigo!
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Postby CezeN » Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:18 am

Me + this thread = :?

I can't speak latin, but I can speak math.
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Postby jotabe » Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:31 am

Non posso parlare linguam latinam etiam, modo pauco scribere illam.
(Can't speak latin either, only write a bit.) ;)
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Postby Eddie Pinz » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:10 pm

"O-S-T-MUS-TIS-NT"
This brings back fond memories of my Latin classes. Also, reminds me of how much I forgot.

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Postby Eaquae Legit » Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:18 am

"O-S-T-MUS-TIS-NT"
This brings back fond memories of my Latin classes. Also, reminds me of how much I forgot.
Did you guys do the Mickey Mouse song, too?

I think my favourite mnemonic is how to recognise the passive: it's the Pirate Voice, ARRRRRRRRR! (Must be said with a finger making a hook.)

There's some really funny mnemonics in the back of one of my grammars. It's all antiquated English boys' school rhymes that no one can use anymore because they depend heavily on accent and (I think?) social context.
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Postby Caspian » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:18 am

Ut vales hatie mane?

Non saleo. Vomicum gutturum habeo. :(
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Postby Eaquae Legit » Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:24 pm

Heu! Spero te mox salvere!
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Postby Caspian » Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:38 pm

Gratio! Sentio param mox.
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