Not necessarily something dear, just that needs protecting.Now that's something I can agree with. At first when I saw "the Cultural Hero of America would be The Protector" I thought, "What does Tony Jaa have to do with America?" But I get it now. The idea is that what defines "hero" in America is those who overcome all odds to defend what they hold most dear.
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Why would you protect something that you didn't care about?Not necessarily something dear, just that needs protecting.Now that's something I can agree with. At first when I saw "the Cultural Hero of America would be The Protector" I thought, "What does Tony Jaa have to do with America?" But I get it now. The idea is that what defines "hero" in America is those who overcome all odds to defend what they hold most dear.
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Though protecting those you don't hold dear and who don't have intrinsic connection to you does seem to go contrary to objectivist thought.
Guest, you may have not been star1ooker (my mistake), but you admitted to being Leto11, a trolling account.
http://www.philoticweb.net/forum/viewto ... 5&start=70
You also admitted in another thread that you were using "guest" to try to bait or argue or something of the sort with some of the noobs like FT.
Guest, you may have not been star1ooker (my mistake), but you admitted to being Leto11, a trolling account.
http://www.philoticweb.net/forum/viewto ... 5&start=70
You also admitted in another thread that you were using "guest" to try to bait or argue or something of the sort with some of the noobs like FT.
The Makeout Hobo is real, and does indeed travel around the country in his van and make out with ladies... If you meet him, it is customary to greet him with a shot of whiskey and a high five (if you are a dude) or passionate makeouts (if you are a lady).
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I'd debate this point with you, but really, I can't stop laughing long enough.The Hero doesn't have to protect only the things he cares about. It's even a little more heroic, in my opinion, if he doesn't have a reason to care about some things he's protecting.
"it's even more heroic... if he doesn't have a reason to care about something he's protecting"
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You may laugh, but I'm serious.
If I see a baby bird and there is no mother around, I would take it home and feed it until it was old enough go back outside. But, that would never happen if what you are saying is true. Because I have no reason to care about this bird, I have no reason to help it; I just let that bird lay there and starve.
If I see a baby bird and there is no mother around, I would take it home and feed it until it was old enough go back outside. But, that would never happen if what you are saying is true. Because I have no reason to care about this bird, I have no reason to help it; I just let that bird lay there and starve.
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Guest, you may have not been star1ooker (my mistake), but you admitted to being Leto11, a trolling account.
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The American hero is just anyone who knows what is right without necessarily being extremely intelligent.
It's this idea that Ameicans are morally correct without being the smartest. This kind of started with Huck Finn and stuff like that. It applies to cowboys, mentioned earlier--no schooling, but went around and shot the bad guy. So, yeah, you could call the American hero a cowboy, or a protector.
I think in America that takes many forms depending on the region. Cowboys in the west. In the Appalachain Mountains, that might by a Daniel Boone/Davy Crockett type figure. Johnny Appleseed, even. Like mentioned before, Huck Finn.
While America was emerging into the world European countries called us stupid, and we responded by claiming to have higher moral values. We learned about this in English last year, using Huck Finn as the example, which is why I feel most comfortable using it to prove my point.
It's this idea that Ameicans are morally correct without being the smartest. This kind of started with Huck Finn and stuff like that. It applies to cowboys, mentioned earlier--no schooling, but went around and shot the bad guy. So, yeah, you could call the American hero a cowboy, or a protector.
I think in America that takes many forms depending on the region. Cowboys in the west. In the Appalachain Mountains, that might by a Daniel Boone/Davy Crockett type figure. Johnny Appleseed, even. Like mentioned before, Huck Finn.
While America was emerging into the world European countries called us stupid, and we responded by claiming to have higher moral values. We learned about this in English last year, using Huck Finn as the example, which is why I feel most comfortable using it to prove my point.
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I think there are several American achetypes: The Businessman/Millionaire, The Actor/Actress/Singer/Dancer, The Hero (cowboys, policemen, firefighters, doctors, etc), and for female teens, The Heiress. I'm serious with that last one. Do you realize how many young girls are emulating Paris Hilton and the like? It's sad. Just sad.
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Starlooker, I was referring to the old board, not this one. I can make you a clone if you want.
The Makeout Hobo is real, and does indeed travel around the country in his van and make out with ladies... If you meet him, it is customary to greet him with a shot of whiskey and a high five (if you are a dude) or passionate makeouts (if you are a lady).
I wouldn't be so negative about American culture. Over here in Europe, there is plenty of anti-intellectualism, too. Just a small example: a spanish scientist had won an award in USA for his research. When interviewed, he said that even though he researched as his job, he loved it so much that he would do it for free. The next day, an editorialist in in a notorious left-wing newspaper began to speak ill of him, calling him immoral and such.The American hero is just anyone who knows what is right without necessarily being extremely intelligent.
It's this idea that Ameicans are morally correct without being the smartest. This kind of started with Huck Finn and stuff like that. It applies to cowboys, mentioned earlier--no schooling, but went around and shot the bad guy. So, yeah, you could call the American hero a cowboy, or a protector.
I think in America that takes many forms depending on the region. Cowboys in the west. In the Appalachain Mountains, that might by a Daniel Boone/Davy Crockett type figure. Johnny Appleseed, even. Like mentioned before, Huck Finn.
While America was emerging into the world European countries called us stupid, and we responded by claiming to have higher moral values. We learned about this in English last year, using Huck Finn as the example, which is why I feel most comfortable using it to prove my point.
All around of the world there is a great mistrust of the intellectuals (and i mean the true intellectuals, not the actors, cinema directors or singers). Public enjoys immensely when a scientist is discovered to be a fraud, while true crooks are immune to such thing. Even among kids, those who are more in the geeky and nerdy side of life feel it pretty often, shunned to social awkwardness.
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I think the Celtic Chieftan is the typical Irish hero, wild and raucous and brave. But I also think someone who plays the Buffoon is widely admired too.
As to the American one, you've all moved away from a Hero that is uniquely American to one that is universal. I'd say the Good Cowboy was the most correct, it embodies the morals, strength and independance that the U.S. was founded on and continues to supposedly aim for.
As to the American one, you've all moved away from a Hero that is uniquely American to one that is universal. I'd say the Good Cowboy was the most correct, it embodies the morals, strength and independance that the U.S. was founded on and continues to supposedly aim for.
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