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Postby locke » Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:11 am

http://www.amazon.com/Pathfinder-Orson- ... 719&sr=8-1

There's a new book coming out this november, about a boy (who else?) with the mystical power to see the past and also to change the past. one faction wants him crowned, one faction wants him killed.

A few years ago I would have been very excited to read this. Now, I find it impossible not to parse the jacket copy for the not-so-veiled political and religious allegory
So, Lone Star, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb.

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Postby Luet » Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:55 am

Eh, it's worth getting from the library. :)
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Postby locke » Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:01 am

that was exactly my thought, I'll definitely borrow that one first. After Empire and Ender in Exile, he dropped off my automatic buy list.
So, Lone Star, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb.

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Postby Syphon the Sun » Sun Dec 26, 2010 6:03 pm

Halfway through and, in my opinion, it's much better (so far) than the past few books he's put out. It's also written (or is it just marketed?) specifically as Young Adult, so that's something to keep in mind.

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Postby Gravity Defier » Sun Dec 26, 2010 6:10 pm

That's welcome news, since I was given this book for Christmas. I'll likewise return when I've started and finished it.
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Postby Luet » Sun Dec 26, 2010 8:00 pm

It's ready for me to pick up at the library. So, I should have it read soon.
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Postby megxers » Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:08 am

Syphon's review has moved it from bottom of the mental to-read pile to its sitting next to my current other book. I only had to wait 2 days to get it on hold, must not be very popular? HMMM.
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Postby Young Val » Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:16 pm

Loved it.
you snooze, you lose
well I have snozzed and lost
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Postby locke » Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:15 am

I enjoyed it, but it kept me chuckling throughout, it was like an OSC mix tape of his greatest hits of worldbuilding.
So, Lone Star, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb.

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Re: Pathfinder

Postby OSCjunkie » Wed Oct 12, 2011 5:32 pm

I know I'm probably the only one to stumble upon OSC through a book other than Ender's Game, but Pathfinder is actually the first of his I read and I LOVED IT! I can't wait for the rest of the series. It lead me to read Lost Gate and then Ender and I am forever thankful that Borders went under and placed this on the disco rack before it closed. I picked it up on a whim and have never been a happier reader.

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Re: Pathfinder

Postby Gravity Defier » Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:08 pm

Have you mentioned elsewhere if you've read anything other than those three titles? If so, forgive me. I'm glad that you started on Pathfinder, if you had to start with a new one, given his new stuff tends to be hit or miss; Pathfinder was a solid, entertaining book.
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Re: Pathfinder

Postby OSCjunkie » Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:55 pm

So far I've read (in order): Pathfinder, Lost Gate, Empire, Hidden Empire, EG, SftD, Xenocide, CotM, Ender's Shadow, and currently reading Shadow of the Hegemon. Empire and sequel weren't as brilliant as the others but... I can't wait to finish the Bean/Shadow series. I have Shadows in Flight on my Christmas list even though it comes out in Jan. I just hope he doesn't drag his feet on Pathfinder and Lost Gate sequels. I'll be depressed when I finish in Enderverse.
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Re: Pathfinder

Postby Gravity Defier » Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:01 pm

OSCjunkie wrote:I just hope he doesn't drag his feet on Pathfinder and Lost Gate sequels.


I hope he doesn't, either, but it wouldn't be out of character if he did. I'm still waiting for the last Alvin Maker book.
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Re: Pathfinder

Postby Luet » Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:20 am

I enjoyed Pathfinder quite a bit compared to some other of his recent books (Empire, blergh!). I hope you read some of his older, non-Ender, novels too. Pastwatch, Worthing Saga and Songmaster are some of my favorites.

And I wasn't sure where else to put this but I love your avatar! I'm not sure if you've discovered it yet but we have a whole thread about Hunger Games in the Milagre forum. :)
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Re: Pathfinder

Postby OSCjunkie » Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:04 am

Haven't read any of the pre-Ender books/stories yet. I plan on making it through the OSC collection before long, but I'm a new fan and he has a lot to explore.

I haven't seen the HG thread yet but I'll look for it. So exited about the movie!!!
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Re: Pathfinder

Postby v-girl » Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:08 am

I finally picked up Pathfinder and I'm glad to see most people enjoyed it. It was on sale for $3.99 in the Kindle store. I haven't read any OSC since Ender in Exile so I'm happy to settle into another book of his!

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Re: Pathfinder

Postby LilBee91 » Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:36 pm

Gravity Defier wrote:
OSCjunkie wrote:I just hope he doesn't drag his feet on Pathfinder and Lost Gate sequels.


I hope he doesn't, either, but it wouldn't be out of character if he did. I'm still waiting for the last Alvin Maker book.


Mergh. Sometimes I pretend that Alvin Maker doesn't exist so I don't get annoyed about that book not existing.

And I just realized I never posted my thoughts on Pathfinder (at least in this thread). It definitely reminded me of classic OSC and I loved it. I can't decide how I feel about a sequel though. I liked the way it ended, and don't want to risk ruining that.
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Re: Pathfinder

Postby Jayelle » Fri Oct 14, 2011 6:56 am

Gravity Defier wrote:
OSCjunkie wrote:I just hope he doesn't drag his feet on Pathfinder and Lost Gate sequels.


I hope he doesn't, either, but it wouldn't be out of character if he did. I'm still waiting for the last Alvin Maker book.


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Re: Pathfinder

Postby Luet » Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:00 am

Jayelle wrote:
Gravity Defier wrote:
OSCjunkie wrote:I just hope he doesn't drag his feet on Pathfinder and Lost Gate sequels.


I hope he doesn't, either, but it wouldn't be out of character if he did. I'm still waiting for the last Alvin Maker book.


...and the sequel to Lovelock.


BAH! I had *almost* forgotten about these until you guys had to bring them up.
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Re: Pathfinder

Postby Gravity Defier » Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:14 am

Misery loves company! :mrgreen:
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Re: Pathfinder

Postby Syphon the Sun » Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:03 pm

There are supposed to be more Pastwatch books coming, too.

The real question is this: has he ever actually finished a series (other than Homecoming)? I can't think of one. (ETA: I guess you can count Worthing, if you want. Sorta.)

My prediction: he'll get to the last book and start something new, as always.

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Re: Pathfinder

Postby OSCjunkie » Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:51 pm

Syphon the Sun wrote:There are supposed to be more Pastwatch books coming, too.

The real question is this: has he ever actually finished a series (other than Homecoming)? I can't think of one. (ETA: I guess you can count Worthing, if you want. Sorta.)

My prediction: he'll get to the last book and start something new, as always.

This is why his stroke worried me.


I think he finished Ender if you can separate it from Bean. But I here you. With all the essays, comics, video games, movies, classes, and book series this man has going at once, I'm only cautiously optomistic I will see the conclusions to anything. Still, I will wait on pins and needles for Ruins and The Gate Thief.
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Re: Pathfinder

Postby Syphon the Sun » Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:12 pm

OSCjunkie wrote:I think he finished Ender if you can separate it from Bean.

Shadows Alive comes after Children of the Mind and is the "bridge" book between the Speaker series and the Shadow series, with characters from both series playing major roles.
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Re: Pathfinder

Postby OSCjunkie » Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:34 pm

Syphon the Sun wrote:
OSCjunkie wrote:I think he finished Ender if you can separate it from Bean.

Shadows Alive comes after Children of the Mind and is the "bridge" book between the Speaker series and the Shadow series, with characters from both series playing major roles.

This is the first I'm hearing of this. Is there more info somewhere?
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Re: Pathfinder

Postby Luet » Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:06 am

Read from this post on down in the thread. That should catch you up. Hope that helps!
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Re: Pathfinder

Postby OSCjunkie » Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:20 am

Thanks! So, Shadows in Flight is a novella size continuation of the Shadow series with the final book, Shadow's Alive, still to come. Shadow's Alive is the one that brings the Shadow series full circle and has Bean's kids helping out new Peter, Jane, Miro, and Val. Will the brilliant Descoladores invent a cure for the children of Bean? I hope so.
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Re: Pathfinder

Postby thoughtreader » Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:59 pm

Just downloaded it onto my MIL's Kindle, I'll let you know what I think when i finish.

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Re: Pathfinder

Postby Jayelle » Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:38 am

thoughtreader wrote:Just downloaded it onto my MIL's Kindle, I'll let you know what I think when i finish.


Have you read it yet? I just finished today.

I was pleasantly surprised! You could tell OSC took some time with this one, instead of just banging it out quickly. I found the Ram parts a bit confusing and hard to follow, but I knew they'd connect with the main story eventually (because that's standard OSC). It was nice to feel like I was reading an OSC book from 10 years ago, but I'm a little sad that it's the start of a new series, since he so rarely finishes series.
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Re: Pathfinder

Postby thoughtreader » Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:04 pm

Kindel says I have read 48% read... I'm liking it a lot so far. like most have you have said it feels like old school OSC! I agree that the Ram parts are still confusing but I'm starting to realize how they might connect. Its taking me longer to read because my MIL is reading a book or 3 on her kindle right now too. So I have to take turns :) Can't wait to finish it!

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Re: Pathfinder

Postby wigginboy » Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:28 pm

This was, quite simply, one of the best Card books I have read, despite it being a 'young adult' title. I work at a Chapters store and am always happy to recommend any Card title to my sci-fi and fantasy customers. It boggles minds occasionally when I bring people my age (24) and over to the Teen Fiction section and recommend Pathfinder. I have had more than one of these customers come back and say how much they enjoyed Pathfinder. The story easily combines fantasy and sci-fi aspects and creates a whole new world. This book resonated with me in much the same way Treason did. I very much enjoy reading every new piece Card has to offer. I have just begun The Lost Gate and I'm enjoying it so far. More on that in the appropriate thread when I've read more.

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Re: Pathfinder

Postby Gravity Defier » Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:53 pm

wigginboy wrote:BTW, holy crap, I have not been on here since October of 2010. I had almost forgotten this place existed. I like the makeover.


Welcome back! Hope you stick around; things have changed in many, many ways. :)
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Re: Pathfinder

Postby Luet » Sat Dec 31, 2011 8:05 pm

I had no idea that Pathfinder was considered a YA novel. Odd.
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Re: Pathfinder

Postby KennEnder » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:26 am

Well, "Ruins" is out as of 30 October, I guess, and I chanced to see it laying out on the endless book tables at Costco, so I picked up the hard cover for $10.59... but haven't started reading it yet. I will soon :)
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Re: Pathfinder

Postby KennEnder » Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:34 pm

I'm kind of surprised "nobody" is commenting on Ruins... so far it's pretty good. Does nobody like it?
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Re: Pathfinder

Postby Gravity Defier » Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:36 pm

Around here it's considered a YA novel and my teen librarian just ordered Pathfinder and I'm a ways down the hold list for other libraries' copies...so, I'm waiting.
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