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Shadows in Flight

Postby Purity Control » Tue May 19, 2009 4:04 pm

I read in thi article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadows_in_flight) that OSC is writting a much needed sequel to Children of the Mind. I was wondering what the community wanted in it, and some confirmation that this isn't just another Wiki-hoax.
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Postby Syphon the Sun » Thu May 21, 2009 8:08 am

From Orson Scott Card himself:
Shadows in Flight will come after Children of the Mind but will include some loose ends from Shadow of the Giant. It's not properly a sequel to Giant, though.
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Postby Eddie Pinz » Thu May 21, 2009 8:21 am

That's interesting. With the name Shadows in Flight, I thought it was a sequel to Shadow of the Giant and would have some tie in to Children of the mind. But I guess not if that is coming from Card himself.

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Postby neo-dragon » Thu May 21, 2009 3:50 pm

First, it's definitely not a hoax. Card has been dropping mentions of it since even before "Shadow of the Giant" came out, and as recently as just before the release of "Ender in Exile". Second, things that Card says about his books before he actually writes them often changes quite a bit by the time he finishes them. Around the time of "Shadow Puppets" I believe he said that Bean would definitely be dead the end of the following book. The entire novel "Ender in Exile" was initially supposed to be about what ended up just being the last few chapters.
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Postby Peterlover14 » Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:49 pm

Yeah I don't recall anybody actually saying Bean was dead. I wish he could have some amazing reunion with SOMEONE. That would be amazing.
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Postby Peterlover14 » Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:51 pm

Yeah I don't recall anybody actually saying Bean was dead. I wish he could have some amazing reunion with SOMEONE. That would be amazing.
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Postby Glass » Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:06 pm

So the date of publication is completely unknown? :shock:
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Postby Peterlover14 » Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:02 pm

Apparently. Frustrating isn't it? Like how nobody knows when the casting calls for The Hunger Games are.
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Postby Glass » Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:04 pm

So until that book comes out, my life will basically be incomplete. :cry:
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Postby Peterlover14 » Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:07 pm

We all suffer, hon. None of us are satified no matter how good the other books are. WE MUST KNOW WHAT HAPPENS.
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Postby neo-dragon » Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:33 am

A recent OSC interview:

An except:

Matthew Peterson: And I heard we might get another book also: Shadows in Flight.

Orson Scott Card: Yeah, Shadows in Flight is planned to be after Children of the Mind and a direct sequel to Shadow of the Giant. So, it brings the two series back together again at the end.

Matthew Peterson: Awesome. [laughs] Any idea when we might be able to see that one?

Orson Scott Card: They always make me write them before they’ll publish them, it’s . . .

Matthew Peterson: Oh, it’s just one of those things.

Orson Scott Card: They just insist on it.
It's nice to know that it's still coming at some point. You know, kind of like the Ender's Game movie.
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Postby Peterlover14 » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:19 pm

His voice is just as I pictured it.
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Postby Syphon the Sun » Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:26 pm

It's nice to know that it's still coming at some point. You know, kind of like the Ender's Game movie.
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Postby perspicacious.emperor » Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:23 pm

I see some conflict: is SiF a sequel to Giant or not? In the case that it's not, my friend will be extremely devastated, as she is obsessed with Bean to the point of insanity.

CotM didn't have a really resolved ending, did it? I think another book is needed to tie everything together. Somehow. *crosses fingers*

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Postby Sonikku13 » Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:30 pm

From what I've heard, SiF occurs after CotM, but it will also pick up some plot threads left dangling after SotG. SiF will hopefully resolve everything.
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Postby neo-dragon » Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:32 pm

It's supposed to complete both story lines, telling the fate of Bean and his children who left Earth and revisiting Peter II and the gang as they learn more about the Descoladores. Or at least that's what Card said years ago. His stories often change even as he writes them.
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Postby perspicacious.emperor » Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:37 pm

^ That's what I thought, but then I read the quotes by neo and Syphon...

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Postby TheMessenger » Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:07 am

Maybe they find Volescu and the Descoladores are linked?

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Postby K » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:16 am

I thought this would be ironic, if Bean comes out of his voyage and finds Peter in control of Starways Congress. "I come three-thousand years into the future and he's still ruling humanity."
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Postby Peterlover14 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:41 am

I know right? How cool would it be if Peter came back? I like you already.

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Postby Sonikku13 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:57 pm

What would happen after Peter dies... will he create another Bean? Better yet - another Ender?
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Postby Peterlover14 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:34 pm

Why the hell would he create another Ender, Sonic?
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Postby perspicacious.emperor » Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:47 pm

I don't think Ender would be very happy to be created over and over till the end of time. His auia will commit suicide.

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Postby Sonikku13 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:31 pm

Wasn't Ender's number one priority throughout most of his life to survive? His unconscious mind will keep that aiua reincarnating, because his aiua wants to survive.
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Postby Peterlover14 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:36 pm

But you said Peter would bring Ender back, not Ender's auia.
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Postby Sonikku13 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:53 pm

... And I can say that pigs fly. Does that make it true?
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Postby Peterlover14 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:57 pm

You're so difficult.
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Postby Sonikku13 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:58 pm

You're so difficult.
What does that have to do with Ender?
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Postby Peterlover14 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:05 pm

It was just a comment! You get off topic all the time!
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Postby Sonikku13 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:11 pm

Well pigs flying has a relation... because pigs can "fly" in a sense if they're on a starship.
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Postby Peterlover14 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:14 pm

:lol: Quit making me laugh.
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Postby Sonikku13 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:18 pm

Humans are closely related to pigs. Therefore, Ender is closely related to a pig.

See the logical flaw?
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Postby Peterlover14 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:25 pm

:lol: Sonic!!!
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Postby Sonikku13 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:28 pm

Heres more uh... BS.

Ender is a leader. The current President is Barack Obama. Therefore, Ender is Barack Obama.
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Postby Peterlover14 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:33 pm

Hahahaha The economy would probably be doing much better if that were the case, neh?
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