All These Things That I've Done -- Ender's Game reference?

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All These Things That I've Done -- Ender's Game reference?

Postby Rhyainn » Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:37 am

Okay, I'm new to the site, so let me know if I do anything wrong.

This song--All These Things That I've Done, by The Killers--seems to have so many meanings that pertain to Ender that I find it strange to think the book didn't inspire the song in some way. I noticed it the first time I heard the song, but none of my friends had read Ender at that time, so I ranted at them about how Ender-ish it was. They ignored me, and I thought that maybe I was just crazy. But, my best bud and I just got done reading Ender's Game; she listened to the song and agreed with me.

What do you guys think? (We figured Ender fans would be the best people to ask, obviously)

Here's a link to the song (and though I didn't find the music video to be anything but a little cute and distracting, here it is, too If you find any meaning in that, let me know.)

And the lyrics--
When there's nowhere else to run
Is there room for one more son
One more son
If you can hold on
If you can hold on, hold on
I wanna stand up, I wanna let go
You know, you know - no you don't, you don't
I wanna shine on in the hearts of men
I want a meaning from the back of my broken hand

Another head aches, another heart breaks
I am so much older than I can take
And my affection, well it comes and goes
I need direction to perfection, no no no no

Help me out
Yeah, you know you got to help me out
Yeah, oh don't you put me on the blackburner
You know you got to help me out

And when there's nowhere else to run
Is there room for one more son
These changes ain't changing me
The cold-hearted boy I used to be

Yeah, you know you got to help me out
Yeah, oh don't you put me on the blackburner
You know you got to help me out
You're gonna bring yourself down
Yeah, you're gonna bring yourself down
Yeah, you're gonna bring yourself down

I got soul, but I'm not a soldier
I got soul, but I'm not a soldier
...

Yeah, you know you got to help me out
Yeah, oh don't you put me on the blackburner
You know you got to help me out
You're gonna bring yourself down
You're gonna bring yourself down
Yeah, oh don't you put me on the blackburner
Yeah, you're gonna bring yourself down

Over and out, last call for sin
While everyone's lost, the battle is won
With all these things that I've done
All these things that I've done
If you can hold on
If you can hold on

I suggest that you listen to the song while reading the lyrics--it makes things easier to understand.

Comments? Thanks so much for your time!

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Postby ...Arson » Sun May 10, 2009 5:01 pm

Great song, but I don't believe so. It's easy to make alot of connections, I just don't think that's what the songwriter (flowers i think) was trying to convey.

There are alot of connections though, and wouldn't be surprised if it were true, I just don't think so.
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Postby Eskarina » Thu May 14, 2009 2:56 am

I don't believe so, tbqh.

Last time I've seen the very same lines tossed around, totally belonging to their fandom of course, was a group of Gundam Wing fans.

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Postby TheGateISdown » Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:49 pm

Check out the Bayside Album "The walking wounded" especially the title track . If its not directly related, the themes are so similar to the EG books its uncanny.

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Postby Satya » Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:57 pm

This one kinda reminds me of Ender and the Buggers/Hive Queen

As I Lay Dying, "Forsaken"

I've looked straight into your eyes
And turned my head for the last time
Because I was scared to leave these walls in ruin
Like the fate of those who trust in themselves
We are alone and afraid

I know you are the one we left behind
Yet somehow we are the ones who are alone
You're the one we left behind, you're the one we left be

I will no longer turn my head
I will never forget you
You are the one we left behind
You are the forsaken

Weve built our confidence
On broken dreams now left for dead
Yet we've been condemned, yet we've been condemned
To chase these dreams that never end

I know you are the one we left behind
Yet somehow we are the ones who are alone
You're the one we left behind, you're the one we left be

I will no longer turn my head
I will never forget you
You are the one we left behind
You are the forsaken

I will, I will no longer turn my head
I will, I will never forget you
You are, you are the one we left behind
You are, you are the forsaken

Our selfishness consumes us
Until the whole world is not enough
Forgive the day that I erased
That I erased your name, that I erased your name
For it's the memory of me that will decay

I know you are the forsaken
Somehow we are the ones who feel alone
I know you are the forsaken
Somehow we are the ones who feel alone
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