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Stasis?

Postby Mega » Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:01 pm

I am just wondering, if stasis existed in EiE, why did it not exist in SotG. It simply makes no sense. They make such a big deal about it, it keeps them at the same age. But if it did exist why couldn't Bean have gone into stasis to keep himself alive. Is it just short term, or did OSC just not come up with it until EiE.
Also, I believe in Shadow Puppets, one of the main scientists emails Bean and at the end he says, "If only cryogenics had not been such a barren field."
I know technically, stasis is not cryogenics, because I do not believe it uses cold, but I do not actually know, but still, it works the same way, unless it is only short term, which in the EiE, it never made clear.
I know this really doesn't matter, and I know that Bean would never have actually done it, but it was never even mentioned anywhere in the Shadow subseries.
Any thoughts on why this is the case, and why Bean was never even presented the option.
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Postby locke » Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:40 am

stasis = somec

I imagine the inconsistency with the "if only cryogenics had not been such a barren field" and the sudden widespread acceptance of stasis in EiE is that OSC needed to have only one pubescent female vying for Ender's attention so he could play out the Austen chamber drama on the ship.
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Postby Peterlover14 » Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:12 pm

I'm just replying because not a lot of people have. Makes me feel special.
Just kidding.
But seriously I don't know how to reply to this.
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Postby Jeesh_girl15 » Sat Nov 28, 2009 10:06 am

Maybe he hadn't thought of it yet. OSC, that is. SotG did come out before EiE. And welcome to PWeb, Peterlover. Stick around, you might find it interesting... Or I might...
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Postby Peterlover14 » Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:17 pm

Ha! What that supossed to mean? You should know this website is interesting. Look at the picture at the top of the page! I mean what the hell is that?
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Postby perspicacious.emperor » Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:14 pm

That's one of the problems with releasing a big story in little parts. You think of something that you can add in, and then regret not being able to because in the previous part, it didn't exist.

But I haven't read EiE yet, so I wouldn't know.

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Postby zkilwein » Mon Jan 04, 2010 6:39 pm

I think that he couldn't be put into stasis because besides him the only other people on his ship were his children who were too young to know how to fly it. Not to mention the fact that he never expected volescu and other scientists to find the cure.

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Postby Rodaka » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:23 pm

The reason for inconsistencies is simply this-

Orson Scott Card doesn't have a memory of such amazing proportions to know every little thing he wrote that people said.

If you read through everything, you'll notice there are several contradictions.

You'll also note, that in the back of Ender in Exile, Orson gives his explanation for contradictions, and asks people to inform him of any such contradictions.
"I once heard a tale of a man who split himself in two. The one part never changed at all; the other grew and grew. The changeless part was always true, the growing part was always new, and I wondered, when the tale was through, which part was me, and which was you."

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Postby neo-dragon » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:39 pm

Yeah, it's a good thing that OSC has awesome fans who help prevent even more inconsistencies. Otherwise he'd probably have characters popping up where they can't possibly be with no explanation.

In this case though it's more because the idea of stasis hadn't been introduced in the series until EiE, well after SotG was written.

My own personal explanation is that entering and coming out of stasis would put extra strain on Bean's heart. It doesn't say so anywhere, but that's what I choose to believe. 8)
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Postby human. » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:53 pm

Yeah, it's a good thing that OSC has awesome fans who help prevent even more inconsistencies. Otherwise he'd probably have characters popping up where they can't possibly be with no explanation.
Funny you mention this, I just saw this really cool guy's name in the back of an Ender book talking about how he helped OSC out with something really similar! I'm pretty impressed by him.

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Postby buckshot » Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:27 pm

I still find it hard to believe that OSC has a hard time recalling the fine points of all his writings . I would be embarassed to admit I need people to research and remind me of my own work. :?

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Postby neo-dragon » Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:00 am

I don't think it's all that bad. He doesn't like re-reading his own work and he wrote Ender's Game 25 years ago. Meanwhile he has all these fans online who are eager to help and who have read his books more times than he has and a lot more recently.
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