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Postby ender23 » Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:38 pm

who were the leaders of which toons?

This is what i got so far:

A toon fly molo
b toon
c toon Crazy Tom
d toon
E toon

the 3 toon leaders i can't place are hot soup, vlad, and dumper

can someone help me? it's killin me!

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Postby Person122 » Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:22 pm

Vlad leads the B toon Hot Soup leads the D toon and Dumper leads the E toon.

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Postby akrolsmir » Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:47 am

BTW, who do you think among his toon leaders is... described most by OSC throughout all the books?

My candidates would be Hot Soup, Crazy Tom or Vlad.

Hot Soup cause he took over China and had that short story, Cheater, Crazy Tom from AWOG, or Vlad because of his aid to russia w/ achilles at the start of SotH and talk w/ peter later.
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Postby shadow_8818 » Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:17 pm

what did crazy tom do

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Postby akrolsmir » Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:03 am

Crazy Tom is practically the other main character from A war of gifts.
Do? He didn't do much. But his... personality? psyche? background? is very well described.
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Postby Person122 » Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:06 pm

BTW, who do you think among his toon leaders is... described most by OSC throughout all the books?

My candidates would be Hot Soup, Crazy Tom or Vlad.

Hot Soup cause he took over China and had that short story, Cheater, Crazy Tom from AWOG, or Vlad because of his aid to russia w/ achilles at the start of SotH and talk w/ peter later.
I'd say that either Hot Soup or Vlad would be the most likely candidates. Hot Soup had his short story, plus he was a major character in Shadow of the Giant. And Vlad because or Shadow of the Giant and the invasion of China/colonization, though he was mentioned only once in Ender's Game. I think it is interesting that even though the world seems to revolve around Ender in Ender's Game, in the rest of the books except for Ender's Shadow there seems to be not one "main character". Dumper, like Vlad was mentioned just once in Ender's Game, and aside from the Colonization Program and Quechua People deals, he was not a major player in the Shadow Series. Don't quote me on this because I haven't finished the Shadow Series yet...
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Postby Hector.Victorious » Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:06 pm

Crazy Tom is practically the other main character from A war of gifts.
Do? He didn't do much. But his... personality? psyche? background? is very well described.
Crazy Tom? A War of Gifts? I think it was Dink if my memory is correct. The book told the story of Zeck and Dink. Crazy Tom was mentioned briefly in the discussion of Santa, but I would hardly consider that a main character.
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Postby akrolsmir » Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:16 pm


Crazy Tom? A War of Gifts? I think it was Dink if my memory is correct. The book told the story of Zeck and Dink. Crazy Tom was mentioned briefly in the discussion of Santa, but I would hardly consider that a main character.
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Postby Syphon the Sun » Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:50 pm

Which of Ender's toon leaders got the most coverage? I'm thinking Bean. ;)
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Postby neo-dragon » Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:48 pm

Bean wasn't a toon leader... Noob. :roll: :P
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Postby Tcashon » Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:04 am

Unless you count his "special task force" as a toon.

Which should be the case since Ender states that the other commanders had not caught onto the fact the he used 5 toons instead of 4.
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Postby neo-dragon » Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:20 am

I thought that was not counting Bean's special task force. I think Dragon Army had toons A-E, plus Bean's force which had members from each toon.
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Postby Tcashon » Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:39 am

Now that I think about it more in depth, I believe you are correct. But even so, couldn't you still consider Bean's task force to be a special 6th toon? In effect still making him a toon leader as he was responsible for training those in his force (even if Ender was to be informed of what they were doing)
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