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Postby eriador » Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:34 pm

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I have to admit that I agree with her though...
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Postby Rei » Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:56 pm

Blast, someone beat me to it. I do need to re-read the books, but I seem to recall being one of the seven who enjoyed it.
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Postby Petra456 » Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:35 pm

I agree with the guy. Funny one though.
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Postby neo-dragon » Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:49 am

I like Xenocide more than Speaker. I always have.

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Postby BonitoDeMadrid » Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:00 am

I like Xenocide more than Speaker, but I like EG more than Xenocide. EG is...well, I like it more.

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Postby Luet » Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:15 am

where was the from? link?
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Postby Young Val » Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:20 am

http://www.xkcd.com/


i love this comic. i get it on an LJ feed.
you snooze, you lose
well I have snozzed and lost
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I'll disregard the cost
I hear the bells
so fascinating and
I'll slug it out
I'm sick of waiting
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Postby wizzard » Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:13 pm

I'm with the guy on this one. I enjoy all of the books in the series, but Xenocide is definitely at the bottom of the list.
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Postby Mich » Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:57 pm

Xenocide is always the one, for me, where, when I go back through and reread the series, I always get held up for one reason or another.

Sometimes it's a simple as getting halfway through and thinking "Is it really worth the trouble?"
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Postby Dr. Mobius » Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:12 pm

I like Xeno. Not necessarily more than the others, but it is quite enjoyable.
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Postby eriador » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:02 pm

For me, Xenocide is the most mature and the most intellectual of them, so I really like it.

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Postby neo-dragon » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:41 pm

For me, Xenocide is the most mature and the most intellectual of them, so I really like it.
I actually feel that way too. I still love EG most of all, but it wasn't until I read Xenocide that I thought to myself, "Wow... this series is really something!". I remember going straight out to find a copy of Children of the Mind as soon as I finished it.

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Postby eriador » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:48 pm

I actually read Xeno third: EG, ES, Xeno. It was Xenocide that got me hooked on the later EG books, which are a lot different from EG and the shadow books.

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Postby zeroguy » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:36 pm

I do not disagree with Randall Munroe (or, err, his comics) all that often. But when I do, I really disagree. I was so sure that this was going to be one of those "happy ending" comics (like the MC Hammer Slide one) when I read the Xenocide line.

You are wrong, Mr. Munroe. You may not think we are many, but I have more faith in the human psyche. The fans of Xenocide shall inherit the earth!

...that sounds really really bad.

Edit: Eri, you read Xenocide before SftD? Wasn't that a little.... strange?
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Postby eriador » Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:55 pm

Not really. I ended up thinking about both more carefully, because of the questions that would come up in Xenocide, and then thinking about how what I read later answered them. I can recommend it for anybody with a flexible, curious mind. It's interesting to say the least, and given the re-read-abilty of the whole series, not all that dangerous for a new reader.

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Postby mr_thebrain » Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:45 pm

i love xkcd. on a side note: i bought a shirt from him. the green one that says "SCIENCE. It works, bitches!" i plan on wearing it to our band's photo shoot. :D
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Postby Gravity Defier » Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:01 am

I have three bulletin boards in my classroom to fill with something every year, and I was struggling over what I should put in the last one when I stumbled across zero's thread on xkcd. I read up, saw some decently funny math ones along the way that weren't too bad for jr. high school kids (one I liked and had to replace 'fucking' with 'messing'), printed them and voilà. I'm done with that particular board for the year.

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Postby Mich » Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:12 am

That is amazing. Sometimes I wish I were a teacher just so I could do awesome things like that.
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Postby eriador » Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:20 am

You are officially the coolest teacher I have ever met, for the next five minutes. Then I'll go back to the one who believes I can do no wrong ;)

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Postby zeroguy » Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:29 am

That is awesome. (Though... I'd wonder if kids would try to "correct" the Euler's Formula one, but then again, I don't know how many Jr. High kids even know about xkcd...)

What is that in the middle?

Edit: Of those, I think the bottom-left raptor one is my favorite, but that may be partially because of the alt-text ("YOU THINK THIS IS FUNNY?"), which can't really be represented in that form. Alas.
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Postby Gravity Defier » Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:31 am

The middle part is completely unrelated; it's a poem about two types of students. I put it up in a desperate attempt to get inspired and didn't take it down later.
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Postby Luet » Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:56 am

I like the top right one. But I have a question, haven't a lot of people run up a down escalator? I know I have and was disappointed that it wasn't as hard as I thought it would be...
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Postby Mich » Sat Aug 18, 2007 1:40 pm

I simply feel it must be said, at this point: "That kid is BACK on the ESCALATOR!"
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Postby Ua Lava » Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:06 pm

At least Xenocide is her favorite. That book has some merit. If she said Shadow Puppets however ...
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Postby Seiryu » Sat Aug 18, 2007 11:38 pm

I liked Xenocide, but my favorite post-Ender's Game novel was Children of the Mind.
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Postby neo-dragon » Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:38 am

Frankly, if a girl is a fan of the Ender novels at all that's a big plus in my book. :D

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Postby Seiryu » Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:17 am

Funny you should say that, Neo-Dragon. My prom date introduced me to Ender's Game. :D
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Postby starlooker » Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:46 am

I relate to that comic. "And to think I loved her." I've always said (half-kidding) that my true love will have to prefer Speaker to EG. :)

Xenocide -- I like better than everything else in the neverending series. But not better than the first two.
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Postby VelvetElvis » Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:55 am

My true love will not have felt sorry for novinha at any point in the series.
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Postby eriador » Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:24 am

Haha. I totally forgot about the rollover text. The tooltip says: "Cue angry letters from all seven fans of Xenocide."

I think we have half of them here!

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Postby Jebus » Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:37 am

Excellent.

For me, Xenocide is the most mature and the most intellectual of them, so I really like it.
More mature and intellectual is debatable, what isn't though is that it lacked the brilliant crafting and emotional resonance of EG and especially SftD.

Add to that the absolutely terrible ending which was essentialy OSC saying "man, I've got no fucking clue how to finish this book, I wish this was a fantasy novel so I could just magic the solutions to their problems out of thin air."

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Postby Eaquae Legit » Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:45 am

More mature and intellectual is debatable, what isn't though is that it lacked the brilliant crafting and emotional resonance of EG and especially SftD.
That's exactly my response to it.
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Postby zeroguy » Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:48 pm

More mature and intellectual is debatable, what isn't though is that it lacked the brilliant crafting and emotional resonance of EG and especially SftD.
Xenocide is my favorite, but I still agree with this. I haven't read them in a while, but what I remember liking about Xenocide was all of the philotic stuff; explanations, playing with what's possible, etc. So, for some reason that's just what interested me more.
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Postby eriador » Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:51 pm

Ditto


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