My Life in a Literary Agency

Talk about anything under the sun or stars - but keep it civil. This is where we really get to know each other. Everyone is welcome, and invited!
User avatar
Jebus
Toon Leader
Toon Leader
Posts: 1300
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:53 pm
Title: Lord and Saviour
First Joined: 07 Nov 2001

Postby Jebus » Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:34 pm

THE PLANET IS EXPLODING AS I WRITE THIS! POOR CHOICE OF FINAL ACTIONS, I KNOW, BUT LOVED ONES UNREACHABLE!

User avatar
Young Val
Commander
Commander
Posts: 3166
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:00 pm
Title: Papermaster
First Joined: 12 Sep 2000
Location: from New York City to St. Paul, MN (but I'm a Boston girl at heart).
Contact:

Postby Young Val » Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:55 pm

Jebus wins--I cracked a smile.


To reduce the somewhat cryptic nature of the post I wrote earlier (though that can't be helped--I was/am in shock, still) here's a brief rundown of what's happened so far on "Black Wednesday" as every publishing blog/rag is calling it:

Random House: kills ALL IMPRINTS but RH, Crown and Knopf today

Thomas Nelson: lays off 50% of its team today

Houghton Mifflin Harcourt: frozen on new acquisitions indefinitely, PUBLISHER Becky Saletan has quit today, 25% of staff laid off today

Simon & Schuster: eliminates at least 35 positions today (Simon Children's president Rick Richter has resigned today)


It's total chaos. I mean TOTAL chaos at work right now. These are massive massive changes and they're all for the bad. There have been signs leading up to it all last month (Penguin's got out a hiring freeze; Ginee Seo was sacked from S&S) but no one expected anything like this. And certainly not all in one day.

Houghton Mifflin Harcourt is essentially done. They'll have to be bought out (money right now is on the French). Random House is a MESS. S&S is basically empty.

These names/imprints might not mean much to those not in the know, but please believe em when I say that this is a serious industry collapse. And it doesn't look like it's over.
you snooze, you lose
well I have snozzed and lost
I'm pushing through
I'll disregard the cost
I hear the bells
so fascinating and
I'll slug it out
I'm sick of waiting
and I can
hear the bells are
ringing joyful and triumphant

User avatar
Jebus
Toon Leader
Toon Leader
Posts: 1300
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:53 pm
Title: Lord and Saviour
First Joined: 07 Nov 2001

Postby Jebus » Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:11 pm

Meh, I was tired of reading books anyway. Too many descriptions and not enough special effects.

The written word is so last century.

Jayelle
Speaker for the Dead
Speaker for the Dead
Posts: 4027
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:32 pm
Title: Queen Ducky
First Joined: 25 Feb 2002
Location: The Far East (of Canada)

Postby Jayelle » Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:53 pm

How does this effect you, Kelly? Is your job on the line here?

*sends good vibes*
One Duck to rule them all.
--------------------------------
It needs to be about 20% cooler.

User avatar
Jebus
Toon Leader
Toon Leader
Posts: 1300
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:53 pm
Title: Lord and Saviour
First Joined: 07 Nov 2001

Postby Jebus » Wed Dec 03, 2008 5:05 pm

Oh yea, well I suppose that would suck if Kelly loses her job.

If you do get the boot, Kels, I might have a job for you that could really put your skills to the test, it's very challenging, but very rewarding as well.

I'd need your measurements for the french maid outfit first, though.

User avatar
Oliver Dale
Former Speaker
Former Speaker
Posts: 601
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:24 pm
Title: Trapped in the Trunk!

Postby Oliver Dale » Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:45 pm

I saw this on Andrew Wheeler's blog:
http://antickmusings.blogspot.com/2008/ ... shing.html

Not a great time to be an aspiring author, eh? Or, I suppose, an aspiring agent.

User avatar
Young Val
Commander
Commander
Posts: 3166
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:00 pm
Title: Papermaster
First Joined: 12 Sep 2000
Location: from New York City to St. Paul, MN (but I'm a Boston girl at heart).
Contact:

Postby Young Val » Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:56 pm

Bloodbath is right.

My job, Jayelle, is not quite on the line...but I don't exactly have any job security, either.

There are only 12 people that work in my entire company (counting the receptionist) and while I'm a very recent hire, there are two other girls on my staffing level that arrived after I did.

Agencies in general won't be hit by these problems for a few months, at least. Not until the publishers stop buying books. Agencies are more efficient to run, monetarily. But there will undoubtedly be job cuts and the already fierce competition for work in this industry has very clearly just become even more competitive.

I think I'll be alright, even when this side of the fence does start to make cuts. I do great work here, and think I'm appreciated. Will I get my raise that I'm supposed to get after Christmas? Nope. Will I get a holiday bonus? I think it's safe to say that the possibility is laughable.

I'm already working for less than table scraps (I've got three years of professional experience under my belt and a whole truckload on internships and I'm making....under 30K a year. In one of the most expensive cities in the world. It sucks).

It's a very sobering time to be in publishing. I'm basically just keeping my fingers crossed.
you snooze, you lose
well I have snozzed and lost
I'm pushing through
I'll disregard the cost
I hear the bells
so fascinating and
I'll slug it out
I'm sick of waiting
and I can
hear the bells are
ringing joyful and triumphant

User avatar
locke
Speaker for the Dead
Speaker for the Dead
Posts: 3046
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:07 pm
Contact:

Postby locke » Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:43 pm

page 3?!

but the bump because I saw the the NYT is sympathetic to Kelly's situation. they just ran an article of how hard it is to live in NYC when you only make $500,000 a year.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/08/fashi ... ml?_r=1&em
So, Lone Star, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb.

User avatar
Young Val
Commander
Commander
Posts: 3166
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:00 pm
Title: Papermaster
First Joined: 12 Sep 2000
Location: from New York City to St. Paul, MN (but I'm a Boston girl at heart).
Contact:

Postby Young Val » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:00 am

I saw that headline and couldn't even read the article. It makes me nauseous.
you snooze, you lose
well I have snozzed and lost
I'm pushing through
I'll disregard the cost
I hear the bells
so fascinating and
I'll slug it out
I'm sick of waiting
and I can
hear the bells are
ringing joyful and triumphant

User avatar
Oliver Dale
Former Speaker
Former Speaker
Posts: 601
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:24 pm
Title: Trapped in the Trunk!

Postby Oliver Dale » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:45 pm

Interesting usage note, taken from the pages of dictionary.com:
Usage Note: Traditional critics have insisted that nauseous is properly used only to mean "causing nausea" and that it is incorrect to use it to mean "affected with nausea," as in Roller coasters make me nauseous. In this example, nauseated is preferred by 72 percent of the Usage Panel. Curiously, though, 88 percent of the Panelists prefer using nauseating in the sentence The children looked a little green from too many candy apples and nauseating (not nauseous) rides. Since there is a lot of evidence to show that nauseous is widely used to mean "feeling sick," it appears that people use nauseous mainly in the sense in which it is considered incorrect. In its "correct" sense it is being supplanted by nauseating.

User avatar
Young Val
Commander
Commander
Posts: 3166
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:00 pm
Title: Papermaster
First Joined: 12 Sep 2000
Location: from New York City to St. Paul, MN (but I'm a Boston girl at heart).
Contact:

Postby Young Val » Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:49 am

Well, we can add Harper Collins to the list of major publishers that are completely crumbling. Huge layoffs today. Huge.

Hardly any of my friends in the industry have jobs any longer. I'm beginning to panic.
you snooze, you lose
well I have snozzed and lost
I'm pushing through
I'll disregard the cost
I hear the bells
so fascinating and
I'll slug it out
I'm sick of waiting
and I can
hear the bells are
ringing joyful and triumphant

Eddie Pinz
Toon Leader
Toon Leader
Posts: 832
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:27 pm
Title: Ganon's Bane

Postby Eddie Pinz » Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:43 pm

Yikes! I hope all these cuts won't effect you.

Stupid economy...

*grumbles*

User avatar
Young Val
Commander
Commander
Posts: 3166
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:00 pm
Title: Papermaster
First Joined: 12 Sep 2000
Location: from New York City to St. Paul, MN (but I'm a Boston girl at heart).
Contact:

Postby Young Val » Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:18 pm

This phone conversation just happened between me and Shepard Rifkin (author of THE MURDER VINE and also honestly about 103 years old. And essentially deaf).

SR:
Hello?
me: Hello, This is Kelly Riley from Harold Ober Associates, calling for Shepard Rifkin.
SR: I don't want any.
me: Mr. Rifkin?
SR: I don't want any!
me: Mr. Rifkin, I'm not selling anything.
SR: I don't accept sales calls!
me: Mr. Rifkin, I'M NOT SELLING ANYTHING. I'm calling about--
SR: I don't care WHAT you're calling about! I DON'T WANT ANY.
me: I'm calling about your book, "The Murder Vine." There's been an offer--
SR: Call my agent to talk about the book!
me: Mr. Rifkin, this IS your agency. I'm with Harold Ober Associates.
SR: Yes! Harold Ober! Talk to them!
me: I WORK at Harold Ober, sir. This IS Harold Ober. We're calling because we have a film offer for the book.
SR: I DON'T WANT ANY! I DON'T ACCEPT SALES CALLS.
me: I swear I'm not selling anything. I promise. We've had an offer for film rights for your book. Someone wants to make a movie version of "The Murder Vine." I'm just calling to get your consent to proceed with the offer.
SR: What?
me: Yes!
SR: I prefer to conduct all business by mail. Write me a letter with the details.
::::::::click::::::::


ETA: It's public record that Harold Ober Associates represents Shepard Rifkin, and that he wrote a book called THE MURDER VINE which we also represent. If someone were to call to ask about the rights to the book, they would be told whether or not it was currently under option as that information is also available to the public. Since I have not disclosed the other party to the deal, any specific details about the deal, or any personal contact information for Mr. Rifkin, this is not a violation of any of my company's privacy policies. My name has been put up here before, and appears elsewhere on the web, and I've made no secret of my place of employment. So, although many of you seem to be concerned on my behalf, rest assured that I'm not concerned, and will not get into any trouble for posting the above exchange. Love you guys, but geez!
you snooze, you lose
well I have snozzed and lost
I'm pushing through
I'll disregard the cost
I hear the bells
so fascinating and
I'll slug it out
I'm sick of waiting
and I can
hear the bells are
ringing joyful and triumphant

User avatar
Oliver Dale
Former Speaker
Former Speaker
Posts: 601
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:24 pm
Title: Trapped in the Trunk!

Postby Oliver Dale » Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:27 pm

Omigawd....

I think my reply would have been more along the lines of: "Holy Hell, woman! Yes yes yes yes! Do it!"

User avatar
Young Val
Commander
Commander
Posts: 3166
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:00 pm
Title: Papermaster
First Joined: 12 Sep 2000
Location: from New York City to St. Paul, MN (but I'm a Boston girl at heart).
Contact:

Postby Young Val » Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:33 pm

Not only am I now a regular fixture in the publishing after-hours cocktail scene, I am officially a raffle winner. (David won the raffle, too, that same night. We are lucky).

Article for those interested. Video and unflattering photograph of me!

http://blog.shankbone.org/2009/04/02/li ... e-network/



also, I have a job offer from JANET REID.
you snooze, you lose
well I have snozzed and lost
I'm pushing through
I'll disregard the cost
I hear the bells
so fascinating and
I'll slug it out
I'm sick of waiting
and I can
hear the bells are
ringing joyful and triumphant

Gravity Defier
Commander
Commander
Posts: 8017
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:32 pm
Title: Ewok in Tauntaun-land

Postby Gravity Defier » Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:09 pm

also, I have a job offer from JANET REID.
I'm not sure who she is but I assume she's someone important; that aside, a job offer! Congratulations.

This is the part where I don't want to be rude but definitely want to hear all about this since I don't remember you mentioning too much to Bob.
Se paciente y duro; algún día este dolor te será útil.

User avatar
Mich
Commander
Commander
Posts: 2948
Joined: Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:58 am
Title: T.U.R.T.L.E. Power
First Joined: 02 Apr 2002
Location: Land o' Ports
Contact:

Postby Mich » Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:18 pm

Article for those interested. Video and unflattering photograph of me!
Oh, pish tosh! You won the sweet bag and it's all yours, so clutch it greedily if you want to!
Shell the unshellable, crawl the uncrawlible.

Row--row.

User avatar
elfprince13
Toon Leader
Toon Leader
Posts: 2023
Joined: Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:27 pm
Title: The Bombadil
Location: 127.0.0.1
Contact:

Postby elfprince13 » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:14 pm

hehehehe, I was really confused, because the first time I looked at that article I only saw the first picture.....
"But the conversation of the mind was truer than any language, and they knew each other better than they ever could have by use of mere sight and touch."

Dr. Mobius
Speaker for the Dead
Speaker for the Dead
Posts: 2539
Joined: Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:11 pm
Title: Stayin' Alive
First Joined: 17 Aug 2002
Location: Evansville, IN

Postby Dr. Mobius » Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:25 pm

What, you didn't hear? Kelly shaved her head and grew a mustache.
The enemy's fly is down.
Image

User avatar
Young Val
Commander
Commander
Posts: 3166
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:00 pm
Title: Papermaster
First Joined: 12 Sep 2000
Location: from New York City to St. Paul, MN (but I'm a Boston girl at heart).
Contact:

Postby Young Val » Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:53 am

so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, SO:

I'm in talks with Fine Print. I don't want to jinx anything, truly I don't. So I can't say more at the moment.

I'll just say that assuming things go well I'll be starting the (long) process of becoming a certified member of the AAR.
you snooze, you lose
well I have snozzed and lost
I'm pushing through
I'll disregard the cost
I hear the bells
so fascinating and
I'll slug it out
I'm sick of waiting
and I can
hear the bells are
ringing joyful and triumphant

User avatar
Oliver Dale
Former Speaker
Former Speaker
Posts: 601
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:24 pm
Title: Trapped in the Trunk!

Postby Oliver Dale » Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:01 am

Good luck!

User avatar
Mich
Commander
Commander
Posts: 2948
Joined: Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:58 am
Title: T.U.R.T.L.E. Power
First Joined: 02 Apr 2002
Location: Land o' Ports
Contact:

Postby Mich » Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:39 pm

THAT is a sweet deal. Good luck, Kelly.
Shell the unshellable, crawl the uncrawlible.

Row--row.

User avatar
Young Val
Commander
Commander
Posts: 3166
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:00 pm
Title: Papermaster
First Joined: 12 Sep 2000
Location: from New York City to St. Paul, MN (but I'm a Boston girl at heart).
Contact:

Postby Young Val » Fri May 01, 2009 6:02 pm

On June 1, 2009 I will be joining Fine Print Literary Management as their Director of Subrights. I will also officially be an agent and will start building my own list and selling from day one.

Ollie, you'd best be wrapping up your manuscript as we speak.
you snooze, you lose
well I have snozzed and lost
I'm pushing through
I'll disregard the cost
I hear the bells
so fascinating and
I'll slug it out
I'm sick of waiting
and I can
hear the bells are
ringing joyful and triumphant

User avatar
Rei
Commander
Commander
Posts: 3068
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:31 pm
Title: Fides quaerens intellectum
First Joined: 24 Nov 2003
Location: Between the lines

Postby Rei » Fri May 01, 2009 6:24 pm

Awesome, Kelly!
Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ne connait point.
~Blaise Pascal


私は。。。誰?

Dernhelm

steph
Toon Leader
Toon Leader
Posts: 2454
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:36 pm
Title: Rocky Mountain Mama
First Joined: 0- 8-2000
Location: colorado, baby!

Postby steph » Fri May 01, 2009 6:40 pm

YYYAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!
"When I look back on my ordinary, ordinary life,
I see so much magic, though I missed it at the time." - Jamie Cullum

User avatar
Oliver Dale
Former Speaker
Former Speaker
Posts: 601
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:24 pm
Title: Trapped in the Trunk!

Postby Oliver Dale » Fri May 01, 2009 9:21 pm

AHHH! Kelly, that is friggen amazing! Good on you, girl! Damn! Next time I'm in NYC (hopefully soon??) drinks are on me! And.. umm.. not like the last time when I ended up puking on a curb and my best friend's purse got stolen.

But tell us some more.. what areas are you going to be concentrating on? Will you be focusing on a particular genre or market?

Eddie Pinz
Toon Leader
Toon Leader
Posts: 832
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:27 pm
Title: Ganon's Bane

Postby Eddie Pinz » Sun May 03, 2009 8:47 am

That's awesome Kel. Congrats!

User avatar
locke
Speaker for the Dead
Speaker for the Dead
Posts: 3046
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:07 pm
Contact:

Postby locke » Sun May 03, 2009 12:13 pm

I will also add to the chorus.

Freaking awesome, Kelly!
So, Lone Star, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb.

User avatar
daPyr0x
Toon Leader
Toon Leader
Posts: 820
Joined: Wed Sep 27, 2006 5:28 pm
Title: Firebug
Location: Inside the blackhole that became of my heart

Postby daPyr0x » Sun May 03, 2009 4:18 pm

Congratulations Kel! That's awesome news!
Stop trying to be perfect. Focus on being you; perfect will come.
"If only I had an enemy bigger than my apathy I could have won"
Image

User avatar
Jebus
Toon Leader
Toon Leader
Posts: 1300
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:53 pm
Title: Lord and Saviour
First Joined: 07 Nov 2001

Postby Jebus » Sun May 03, 2009 7:16 pm

Congrats Kelly!

I have a few stories I expect published too. And I don't to hear any "but these are terrible", or "this is just the Bible except you've substituted every occurence of Jesus' name for your own", or "no wants a book full of naked pictures of you", cause I'm really tired of hearing that kinda stuff about my work.

User avatar
Young Val
Commander
Commander
Posts: 3166
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:00 pm
Title: Papermaster
First Joined: 12 Sep 2000
Location: from New York City to St. Paul, MN (but I'm a Boston girl at heart).
Contact:

Postby Young Val » Mon May 11, 2009 1:31 pm

The job fell through. f*** my life.
you snooze, you lose
well I have snozzed and lost
I'm pushing through
I'll disregard the cost
I hear the bells
so fascinating and
I'll slug it out
I'm sick of waiting
and I can
hear the bells are
ringing joyful and triumphant

User avatar
Jebus
Toon Leader
Toon Leader
Posts: 1300
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:53 pm
Title: Lord and Saviour
First Joined: 07 Nov 2001

Postby Jebus » Mon May 11, 2009 2:02 pm

That f****** sucks Kels.

User avatar
Mich
Commander
Commander
Posts: 2948
Joined: Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:58 am
Title: T.U.R.T.L.E. Power
First Joined: 02 Apr 2002
Location: Land o' Ports
Contact:

Postby Mich » Mon May 11, 2009 2:08 pm

Aw, man, Kelly. I'm sorry.
Shell the unshellable, crawl the uncrawlible.

Row--row.

User avatar
starlooker
Commander
Commander
Posts: 3823
Joined: Wed Sep 27, 2006 4:19 pm
Title: Dr. Mom
First Joined: 28 Oct 2002
Location: Home. With cats who have names.

Postby starlooker » Mon May 11, 2009 2:31 pm

Damnit! I'm so sorry.
There's another home somewhere,
There's another glimpse of sky...
There's another way to lean
into the wind, unafraid.
There's another life out there...

~~Mary Chapin Carpenter

User avatar
Oliver Dale
Former Speaker
Former Speaker
Posts: 601
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:24 pm
Title: Trapped in the Trunk!

Postby Oliver Dale » Mon May 11, 2009 2:39 pm

That really does suck, Kelly. But don't fret it too much. Bigger and better is out there for you.


Return to “Milagre Town Square”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Ahrefs [Bot] and 205 guests