Misunderstanding on the net

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Misunderstanding on the net

Postby Paul » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:18 am

Do not expect your written communications to be understood.
In effect, e-mail cannot adequately convey emotion. A recent study by Profs. Justin Kruger of New York University and Nicholas Epley of the University of Chicago focused on how well sarcasm is detected in electronic messages. Their conclusion: Not only do e-mail senders overestimate their ability to communicate feelings, but e-mail recipients also overestimate their ability to correctly decode those feelings.

One reason for this, the business-school professors say, is that people are egocentric. They assume others experience stimuli the same way they do. Also, e-mail lacks body language, tone of voice, and other cues - making it difficult to interpret emotion.

"A typical e-mail has this feature of seeming like face-to-face communication," Professor Epley says. "It's informal and it's rapid, so you assume you're getting the same paralinguistic cues you get from spoken communication."
Link: http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0515/p13s ... .html?s=u2

I really think that this should be required reading for everyone at this forum. Its often very hard to know what emotional signals people are sending. Someone might say something sarcastic, but it comes across as mean.

What should we do? Take a second to make sure that they really are trying to convey the message you think they are. Most likely what they said can be interpreted in any number of ways. Most likely the meanist interpretion is not the one that the other person meant.
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Re: Missunderstanding on the net

Postby zeroguy » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:26 am

Someone might say something sarcastic, but it comes across as mean.
Isn't that what the smilies are for?
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Postby Paul » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:28 am

are you being sarcastic? :lol:

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Postby hive_king » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:28 am

:roll:
The Makeout Hobo is real, and does indeed travel around the country in his van and make out with ladies... If you meet him, it is customary to greet him with a shot of whiskey and a high five (if you are a dude) or passionate makeouts (if you are a lady).

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Postby AnthonyByakko » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:31 am

I hate you all and want you to die.

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Postby hive_king » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:33 am

no, it's,

I hate you all and want you to die. :D
The Makeout Hobo is real, and does indeed travel around the country in his van and make out with ladies... If you meet him, it is customary to greet him with a shot of whiskey and a high five (if you are a dude) or passionate makeouts (if you are a lady).

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Postby Paul » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:33 am

See. Perfict example, no smiley, so hes being completely serious.

*takes a step back from AB...

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Postby eriador » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:34 am

mind throwing some smilies on that anthony? :wink:

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Postby AnthonyByakko » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:36 am

This is exactly the kind of miscommunication we're talking about. If people realized that I was serious, they'd know to run away, but if they were unaware of the smiley = sarcasm equation, they might die a tragic death.

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Postby eriador » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:39 am

so it's best to stay away from statements like that online!

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Postby Paul » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:41 am

so it's best to stay away from statements like that online!
exactly, everytime you say something like that a little flag goes up in one of the NSA's servers. Too many flags and you get put on the no-fly list.

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Postby AnthonyByakko » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:42 am

Lucky for me I'm leaving this place far behind.

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Postby Paul » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:43 am

Lucky for me I'm leaving this place far behind.
what ever, you will post here again in like 5 minutes...

EDIT:

oh yea, and dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!

EDIT #2:

Err, i cant spell, just fixed the subject...
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Postby eriador » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:43 am

oh really?

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Postby AnthonyByakko » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:56 am

Didn't say I was leaving PWeb.

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Postby jotabe » Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:26 am

That's why now, in handwritten mail (yeah, i still do that, lol), i need to write smilies. Call me lame, if you want :stoned: but i just cannot do without that tool to convey emotions. :wink:

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Postby VelvetElvis » Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:29 am

you aren't lame.
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Postby AnthonyByakko » Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:33 am

Thank god you were here to clear that up for us. I don't know what we or Jota would do without you there to explicitly state the understood.

Unfortunately, there is no smiley to convey "bemused reproachment."

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Postby Jebus » Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:35 am

Meh, I don't think it's that hard to detect sarcasm once you know the person who's employing it.

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Postby jotabe » Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:38 am

Don't mind A_B, HBC... i'll keep him i a shorter leash :lol:

Jebus, not at least in your case :wink: you are sarcasm in its purest form.

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Postby VelvetElvis » Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:39 am

I agree with Jebus.


(bemused reproachment is condescention)
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Postby AnthonyByakko » Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:40 am

Um... Okay? There's still no smiley for it.

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Postby VelvetElvis » Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:49 am

just making a statement.
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Postby hive_king » Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:28 am

what about :roll:
The Makeout Hobo is real, and does indeed travel around the country in his van and make out with ladies... If you meet him, it is customary to greet him with a shot of whiskey and a high five (if you are a dude) or passionate makeouts (if you are a lady).

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Postby jotabe » Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:32 am

That was one of the most confusing things i saw when i got into the english-speaking internet.
We have no eye-rolling over here, it just doesn't mean anything... though now, i do roll eyes :lol: (and people thinks i am crazy, lol).

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Postby anonshadow » Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:18 am

My way of indicating sarcasm is often "..." Just floating out there, in the middle of nowhere.

But yeah, people not being able to see my face or hear my voice when I say s*** tends to get me in trouble. Especially since I never use things like "LOL" and I don't usually use smilies.
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Postby Dr. Mobius » Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:47 am

Everything I say is completely true and should be taken seriously.
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Postby AnthonyByakko » Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:53 am

I believe you 100%.

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Postby Fris » Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:09 am

I never use sarcasm in my posts. Ever.
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Postby eriador » Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:37 pm

Yeah, like I beleive that :wink:


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