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Can I have some help

Postby mazer » Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:54 pm

Hi i've been gone for really long time, but im back now and I need some help with my project does anyone know where Ender goes when he has his mental breakdown?
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Postby locke » Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:58 pm

he goes to his happy place

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Postby mazer » Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:02 pm

Thanks :) I've got a kind of big project due in a few hours so im stressed :x

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Postby locke » Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:08 pm

out of curiousity, which mental breakdown are you talking about?
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Postby mazer » Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:11 pm

The one right before he goes to eros when they ship him back to earth.

This project has to be alot easier for people who haven't read all of the books I can't rember in which book things happen :?

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Postby neo-dragon » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:21 pm

A lake somewhere in Greensboro. You can't tell me you couldn't remember which book that's from. Even figuring out which chapter shouldn't be too hard. :?
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Postby mazer » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:33 pm

yeh that part isn't hard but the project in general

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Postby neo-dragon » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:51 pm

So, what is the project?
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Postby locke » Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:11 pm

it's just a generic lake. if it were written today it would specifically be around greensboro, written back in 85 I think it's just a generic private american lake.
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Postby neo-dragon » Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:25 pm

It was said to be in Greensboro.
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Postby Mich » Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:04 am

...because Val could be quickly driven there.
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Postby locke » Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:23 am

was it? I don't remember that too clearly. :p
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Postby zeroguy » Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:13 am

Graff says he's in Greensboro, apparently:
"Come for a ride with me, Valentine."
"I don't ride with strangers."
He handed her a paper. It was a release form, and her parents had signed it.
"I guess you're not a stranger. Where are we going?"
"To see a young soldier who is in Greensboro on leave."
She got in the car. "Ender's only ten years old," she said. "I thought you told us the first
time he'd be eligible for a leave was when he was twelve."
The place they go to has a few specific references; I wouldn't be surprised if this is an actual place in NC:
They went out Lake Brandt Road and turned off just past the lake, following a road that
wound down and up until they came to a white clapboard mansion that sprawled along
the top of a hill. It looked over Lake Brandt on one side and a five-acre private lake on
the other. "This is the house that Medly's Mist-E-Rub built," said Graff. "The IF picked it
up in a tax sale about twenty years ago.
At the very least, I remember (the real) Pamlico Sound being mentioned when they were driving to the IF spaceport; no idea if Stumpy Point refers to anything real, though:
They took a helicopter to the IF spaceport at Stumpy Point. lt was officially named for a
dead Hegemon, but everybody called it Stumpy Point, after the pitiful little town that had
been paved over when they made the approaches to the vast islands of steel and concrete
that dotted Pamlico Sound. There were still waterbirds taking their fastidious little steps
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Postby locke » Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:22 am

ooh another shadow continuity error. Card has the wiggins all living in greensboro in that series, I don't think they were living there in EG.
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Postby Syphon the Sun » Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:36 am

Um, we're revoking your mod status.

Of course they were living there. That's why Ender was brough to Brandt Lake (about ten miles outside of Greensboro). They moved there because John Paul and Theresa thought Peter needed the open air to "calm" him.

Page 88:
Valentine celebrated Ender's eighth birthday alone, in the wooded backyard of their new home in Greensboro.
Step softly; a dream lies buried here.

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Postby locke » Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:22 pm

:p well I reread the short story a few months ago but it's been more than a year since I reread Game.
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Postby Dr. Mobius » Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:44 pm

The place they go to has a few specific references; I wouldn't be surprised if this is an actual place in NC
Lake Brandt

Stumpy Point
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Postby neo-dragon » Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:35 pm

That's neat. It never occurred to me that the lake was a real place. Of course, when I first read EG I didn't realize that Eros is an actual asteroid either. What's next, Lusitania is real too?!

There was a continuity error regarding the Wiggin's home, but only in the 1st edition of SotH. Therein it was stated that Ender lived in Greensboro as opposed to his family moving there after he left. It's corrected in the paperback editions.
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Postby Jayelle » Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:39 pm

Um, we're revoking your mod status.
I'm in trouble, too, then. I couldn't think of what he was talking about at all in the initial post.
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Postby UnnDunn » Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:23 pm

That's neat. It never occurred to me that the lake was a real place. Of course, when I first read EG I didn't realize that Eros is an actual asteroid either. What's next, Lusitania is real too?!
Isn't Lusitania a historical battleship or something? I remember seeing part of a special about it on the Discovery channel once... <_<

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Postby neo-dragon » Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:52 pm

Yes, it was. It's also what Portugal used to to be called, I think.
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Postby Taft » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:38 pm

I was at the lake (or at least the closest thing IRL) today. There's a lake just past Lake Brandt that fits the description quite well, truth be told; it's got a whopping three houses on it (and removing two of them over a century would not be hard at all).

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Postby neo-dragon » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:48 pm

That's pretty cool. What's even cooler is that you found a relevant thread to mention this in.
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