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Postby neo-dragon » Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:29 am

Yeah, like many current Dr. Who fans I started with the new era in 2005. There are allusions and references to the old stuff as it takes place in the same continuity (as opposed to being a reboot/reimagining) but everything from 2005 to present is a new series. The 2005 season is in fact referred to as season 1 (or "series 1" if you want to use the British term) of the current series. Season 6 premiers this Saturday.
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Postby Rei » Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:57 am

I don't think I've ever been glad that Easter Vigil will be so early, before. (8pm? Really, people?! That is NOT midnight mass!) But after the Vigil, we're heading back to celebrate Christ's resurrection with Doctor Who :D
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Postby Eaquae Legit » Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:16 pm

Doctor Who! Chocolate eggs! Popcorn! I'm very excited for tomorrow night.
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Postby zeroguy » Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:17 pm

Where the hell do begin? I've read that its pretty easy to pick it up later in the series, BUT WHERE!?!? What should I do?
I've only seen a little of it, but... I took the recommendation to just watch random ones with the "Tom Baker" doctor (the most well-known one of the old series). I liked them, and it didn't seem to matter that I didn't know anything up to that point.

I don't think any of it was a bad introduction to the series, since I really like the old show, even if I haven't seen to much. (I have always found Daleks to just be plain stupid, though.)
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Postby Rei » Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:29 am

Doctor Who is tonight, guys! :D:D:D
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Postby Yebra » Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:14 pm

Ooo err.
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Postby Paul » Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:15 pm

Thanks for the advice people. I guess I will start with the 2005 series. If I like it, then i will check out the older stuff.

Lol, a couple weeks ago I happened to watch this short:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51JtuEa_OPc

Looked quite fun. Altho I can think of worst scenarios than being stuck in a phone booth with two Karen Gillans. Sorry, I just have a thing for redheads...

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Postby Eaquae Legit » Sat Apr 23, 2011 6:00 pm

What the heck, Steven Moffatt!
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Postby Rei » Sat Apr 23, 2011 6:10 pm

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Postby Yebra » Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:11 am

Retrospective oo err. Look closely.

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Also The Lodger needs to be rewatched carefully...Amy isn't alone in that Tardis.
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Postby Bean_wannabe » Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:26 am

Um.. am I the only one who can't see anything?
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Postby Wil » Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:04 am

There's a person standing off to the right completely covered in black to look like a covered statue or something.

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Postby Rei » Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:39 pm

Yeah, and as Yebra says, the device in The Lodger is the same as in this last episode in the tunnels.
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Postby Eaquae Legit » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:47 pm

Yeah, and as Yebra says, the device in The Lodger is the same as in this last episode in the tunnels.
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Postby Yebra » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:57 pm

I'm much prettier though.
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Postby Yebra » Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:27 pm

Although to clarify I wasn't talking about the weird new TARDIS, but in that episode Amy spends most of her time stuck in the normal TARDIS where at some point she has an interesting reaction to something off screen. And then seems to forget. OOO ERRR.
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Postby megxers » Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:58 pm

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SPOILERS FOR SERIES 6 OPENER/SPECULATION

So, I'm thinking Canton Everett Delware is a clue, as his middle name, Everett, is the name of a physicist who did a lot of work with quantum theory and the many worlds hypothesis. But I'm not entirely sure how I think that works into how the doctor's going to get out of his predicament, unless EVERYTHING involving the Silence is going to have some series continuity revision/time reset/the Silence are ****ing everywhere.
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Postby Bean_wannabe » Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:57 am

OK, after having watched today's, I have just one comment:

What the FLIP is going on?

Spoiler warning for the second episode, as I'm not sure how the American schedule fits into the British one.

Okay, so at some point Amy has to go back in time to give birth, or she gives birth and the baby goes back in time. But why does the TARDIS not know whether or not she's pregnant?

Also, how on Earth does her child end up with the ability to regenerate?

Very good episode, though - loved the return of the swimming pool. If there was one room you wouldn't have thought necessary to have access to from the main control room it would be the swimming pool, but oh well.

EDIT: Also, the time machine thingy they destroyed was the same one that was encountered in The Lodger? I suppose having time travel explains how they get Amy / her child back to 1969...
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Postby Eaquae Legit » Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:32 pm

RGHJKguvbesnuerjikMLhbv.

Steven Moffatt is just messing with us, now.

But I was glad the Doctor recognised the time machine.
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Postby Bean_wannabe » Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:35 pm

RGHJKguvbesnuerjikMLhbv.
That was pretty much my reaction, too.
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Postby Wil » Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:15 pm

I... what. I am so confused. But, I really love the Amy/Rory dynamic in this episode. The entire time I was thinking "Aww, poor Rory!", and then, as it turns out, it wasn't that way!

Also, very confused over the kid. So very confused.

Did I mention that I'm confused? Oh, and Steven Moffat is an amazing writer. :D

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Postby Yebra » Sat Apr 30, 2011 5:00 pm

And the time machine, given that it's implied the Silence steal all technology, is quite possibly built by yet a third mystery. Intriguing.
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Postby neo-dragon » Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:03 pm

Okay, so at some point Amy has to go back in time to give birth, or she gives birth and the baby goes back in time. But why does the TARDIS not know whether or not she's pregnant?

Also, how on Earth does her child end up with the ability to regenerate?
One moment she's pregenant, the next moment she's not. The answer is obvious. Clearly Amy was knocked up by Erwin Schrodinger... who's a Time Lord.
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Postby Janus%TheDoorman » Sun May 01, 2011 9:00 am

Hmm so...

Who...

...is the Time Child?
...is River Song?
...did River kill?
...was in the space suit when it killed the Doctor?

What...

...is the astronaut suit?
...can the astronaut suit do without a pilot?

When...

...does Amy get pregnant/give birth?
...did the Silence enter the TARDIS?

Where...

...would the Silence take a Time Engine?
...is Jenny?

Why...

...did the TARDIS explode?
...are the Silence using a Time Engine?
...did the Space Suit grab the Time Child?
...is the Time Child super strong?
...did the space suit kill the future Doctor?
...did old Canton not explain anything?

How...

...did the Silence get the technology to build a Time Engine?
...does Amy's picture end up in the Time Child's room at the orphanage?
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Postby Bean_wannabe » Sun May 01, 2011 9:30 am

The Silence have a TARDIS? They have a time machine, yes, but I thought it was stated in The Lodger that it was another species' cheap knock-off of one.
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Postby Janus%TheDoorman » Sun May 01, 2011 1:20 pm

Went back and checked the Lodger, the Doctor calls it a "Time Engine, someone's attempt to build a TARDIS". I'll edit my post accordingly.

Does anyone else think that maybe the title of "Silence in the Library" wasn't chosen arbitrarily?

And the Silence are creepy and all and obviously not the nicest people in the galaxy, but does anyone find it a bit unsettling that the Doctor's solution was "Kill 'Em All!"
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Postby Bean_wannabe » Sun May 01, 2011 3:43 pm

Don't think the solution was kill them all - just put them in a position where if they stayed around, they would die. Of course, a large number of them would die before they left, but I think he was in Outraged Last of the Time Lords mode.
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Postby Janus%TheDoorman » Sat May 07, 2011 4:47 pm

I have an uneasy feeling of being very underwhelmed by this series so far.

The stretching of mysteries over multiple seasons over multiple episode arcs without resolution and without decent hints is making me weary. With the cracks we were seeing mentions of it even in the side-story episodes like Vampires in Venice, and huge bits of curiosity like the Doctor's "you have to trust me" dialog in Flesh and Stone. Now that the Time Engine has come back into play, we still don't know the Silence's agenda, or who the Time Child is, or who River is, and Eyepatch Lady who I forgot in the last post because she was so minor, and the hooded figure in last season's finale...


It doesn't make for good TV when you have to resolve so many plot threads they're forgotten before they get relevant again. And I'm betting it's only getting worse now that Gaiman's writing the next episode.
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Postby neo-dragon » Sat May 07, 2011 6:59 pm



It doesn't make for good TV when you have to resolve so many plot threads they're forgotten before they get relevant again.
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Postby Jayelle » Sat May 07, 2011 7:20 pm

Never has the title of this thread been so relevant.
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Postby Janus%TheDoorman » Tue May 10, 2011 8:22 am

Also, seriously, does the TARDIS not even have a first aid kit? Travel across time and space, halt invasions, he's got a full body scanner that can deal with Amy's quantum pregnancy, but he's got nothing to improve on CPR?
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Postby fawkes » Tue May 10, 2011 5:04 pm

I'm excited for the Neil Gaiman episode, myself. Also, David Tennant in a ladies' hat.
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Postby Jayelle » Wed May 11, 2011 5:48 am

Also, seriously, does the TARDIS not even have a first aid kit? Travel across time and space, halt invasions, he's got a full body scanner that can deal with Amy's quantum pregnancy, but he's got nothing to improve on CPR?
It must have improved it somewhat since THAT'S NOT HOW CPR WORKS.

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Postby Rei » Wed May 11, 2011 5:59 am

Ali: "Aaand right about now he should be coughing up an ocean..."
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Postby Eaquae Legit » Wed May 11, 2011 10:43 am

Seriously, I find it unconscionable that NO ONE in the entire crew or cast has ever taken CPR lessons. Just ONCE I'd like to see a show do it right. It's just as dramatic, and worth it on the odd chance someone tries to reproduce it by memory (this has happened with the Heimlich before).
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