Destroy a city with a flower – a challenge

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Postby mr_thebrain » Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:14 am

the package is in the mail.
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Postby Rei » Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:27 am

So, you're not open to NEW challenges?

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When I have a major Syntax test today, two books of De doctrina christiana to read for tomorrow, a weekly project and quiz in Hebrew, two Latin declensions and a new conjugation to memorise ASAP, plus my regular duties? I'd say that it's not so much that I'm not open to a new challenge as I am busy enough to pick and choose if I feel it is a challenge worth considering.

That said, I support the giant venus flytrap in the giant flower pot.
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Postby suminonA » Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:09 am

Wow, I hope all goes well for you :) We'll be waiting for more solutions here ;) No pressure intended.

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Postby suminonA » Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:13 am

the package is in the mail.
Thanks, the check is in the mail too.

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Postby mr_thebrain » Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:16 am

i already said the poppy.

wars have been faught over this plant, villages gone, people killed. to make a product that if it wasn't against the law, a whole lot more people would die.

if any real plant has the ability to bring down a city it would be the poppy.
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Postby suminonA » Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:24 am

Poppy. Noted.
You just need a lot more than one plant (one flower) to do any real damage. ;)
Just sayn'.

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Postby mr_thebrain » Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:25 am

picky picky.

what suggestions do you have to offer? hmmm?
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Postby suminonA » Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:54 am

I don't know, like an alien super-power coming to Earth in search of a specific flower, and destroying any city that doesn't have it. (An alien flower, of course).

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Postby mr_thebrain » Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:03 am

right, that's much more plausable than poppies or a giant venus flytrap.
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Postby suminonA » Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:48 am

Well, at least the alien scenario is possible. :P

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Postby mr_thebrain » Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:21 am

*cough* poppies *cough*
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Postby suminonA » Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:36 am

Gesundheit!
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Postby Taalcon » Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:03 pm

A government dignitary meets with the dignitary of another government for the purposes of a treaty.

As part of the widely broadcast diplomatic moves concerning the treaty, one dignitary presented a beautiful flower, native to his own country, as a symbolic gesture. The flower is placed in a specific place of honor while it lives, and a plan is made that, right before the natural decay starts in and begins to present itself visually, the flower will be subject to a method of preservation. The flower will be available, for all time, as a symbol of the unity between the two nations.

Now, nations or groups who are opposed to this treaty on some grounds will now have a completely different view of this flower.

Some may attempt to go after the actual individual flower that was gifted.

Some protestors may begin with another method, smaller in scope, by symbolically messing with the native land on which the flowers naturally grow. They are ripped up by hand in some cases. In others, flower-killer is sprayed over the land.

The patriots of that nation who are supportive of the treaty would retaliate - indivudals would be planting this flower en masse as a sign of nationalistic support. Flags, posters, banners, bumper stickers, etc bearing the image of the flower would rise all over the nation.

Terrorists would step it up a notch in retaliation. From individuals ripping up flowers, to spraying lands, to tearing down flags and burning merchandise, to burning stores that peddle the merchandise, to bombings.

In short, escalation, leading to the result of a destroyed city.

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Postby suminonA » Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:20 pm

Now that's more like it! I've prepared my sticker already. ;)

Moral question: Is it OK to use a beautiful thing (e.g. the flower), that originally binds nations, to finally destroy them?

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Postby Taalcon » Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:33 pm

For most people who intend to destroy nations, morals aren't usually even an issue.

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Postby mr_thebrain » Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:49 pm

oh i think morals play their part. just that some people have a twisted moral core.

i don't think using something beautiful to destroy a city is really a moral issue though. the moral aspect would be whether you should destroy the city period.

I would think that if a city was to be destroyed at all, i'd rather have it be due to something beautiful than something ugly. that way stories and poems can be written.

and taal... the method you described to us was straight up Troy. except instead of a woman, it's a flower.
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Postby Taalcon » Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:56 pm

and taal... the method you described to us was straight up Troy. except instead of a woman, it's a flower.
I hadn't thought of it at the time I wrote it, but you're absolutely right.

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Postby suminonA » Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:22 pm

Who said that women can't be as powerful as flowers? Or is it the other way around? ;)

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Postby suminonA » Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:44 pm

oh i think morals play their part. just that some people have a twisted moral core.
It doesn’t help a bit calling it “twisted”. By their standards yours is just as twisted (and wrong). ;) Call it different. "Different" isn’t by definition “worse”.
i don't think using something beautiful to destroy a city is really a moral issue though. the moral aspect would be whether you should destroy the city period.
True, but we are analyzing here shades of the dark. :D
I would think that if a city was to be destroyed at all, i'd rather have it be due to something beautiful than something ugly. that way stories and poems can be written.
What’s so significantly “better” about having something to write about? Furthermore, “beautiful” also has “twisted” definitions.
Why are we associating “ugly” with “bad/evil/dangerous”? What do you think Frankenstein’s baby would think of that?
and taal... the method you described to us was straight up Troy. except instead of a woman, it's a flower.
Good call. Minus one point for Taalcon, for infringing Copy-right moral code. :P

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Postby Taalcon » Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:51 pm

:P

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Postby mr_thebrain » Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:14 pm

now you're just being silly Anonimus
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Postby suminonA » Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:21 pm

I'm sorry to hear - I mean to read - that.

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Postby Eaquae Legit » Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:47 pm

Hmmm, this reminds me of something...
I don’t only have limited intelligence, but also limited originality ;)

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Postby suminonA » Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:50 am

Pot, meet kettle.
How do you do!

I never claimed any "originality" points, you know. And yes, Taalcon didn't claim them either, it was an "innocent" and friendly joke.
Still, you don't have to believe me if don't want to. Calling me silly is a lot easier.

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Postby suminonA » Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:40 am

Ok, let’s see how we’re doing with the challenge thing. So far, we have these propositions (in chronological order):

1) The “a deity is watching you and will give you a sign” scenario (suminonA)
2) A “messy coup d'état that involves feeding datura/aconite to leader”, or poisoning water sources (Rei)
3) Poppy, or the product of them (mr_thebrain)
4) With “with a GIANT venus flytrap” (Hegemon)
5) (suggestion) “an alien super-power coming to Earth …” scenario (suminonA)
6) use a flower to bind nations and then to destroy them (Taalcon)

The overall moral question is, just as mr_thebrain has noted:
the moral aspect would be whether you should destroy the city period.
So, new propositions are welcome, together with thoughts on what would justify applying any of them. :)

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Postby Jebus » Sat Oct 07, 2006 7:32 pm

Hmmm, this reminds me of something...
I don’t only have limited intelligence, but also limited originality ;)

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Postby suminonA » Sun Oct 08, 2006 4:30 am

Jebus, I made a "silly" joke about Taalcon's originality. So zeroguy reminded me that I'm no better myself. That's what the expression means. :)

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Postby zeroguy » Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:19 pm

So zeroguy reminded me that I'm no better myself.
Minor, but important correction: EL did that, not me.
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Postby suminonA » Mon Oct 09, 2006 1:44 am

Noted. My bad. Thanks zeroguy. :)

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Postby endercoaster » Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:24 pm

I modify the poppy proposal by pointing out that a single flower holds many seeds (deep metaphor alert).
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Postby suminonA » Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:36 am

:: mission start ::

- Are we ready?
- Sir, we are ready!
- Do we have the flower?
- Checked, Sir!
- Do we have the metaphor?
- Checked, Sir!
- Is it a deep one?
- Sir, the author assures us that it is!
- Great, let’s go on with it.
- Releasing the metaphor, Sir!
- Any effects?
- Sir, the habitants of the city seem not to appreciate the profoundness of the attack!
- Any side-effects?
- Sir, none whatsoever, the habitants are not dieing!
- What are you saying ?
- I’m sorry to report that the mission has failed, Sir!
- Darn, I knew I have no idea how to use that deep metaphor thing…

::mission end::

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PS: I meant this as a joke. Are we allowed to make jokes here?
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Postby zeroguy » Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:30 pm

Are we allowed to make jokes here?
No. Now you must die.
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Postby suminonA » Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:49 am

:cry:
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